varminter22
Regular Member
Finally! Bob Irwin has resigned!
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Bob Irwin has Resigned his NVFAC Board Position!
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The Big Guy
Regular Member
As promised I will now join NVFAC, and put a plug in for them on the NV Shooters website as well.
Bob will remain #2 in my book, and I'm sure there were plenty of personal motivations for him to "want" to "resign," but I don't really care.
I'm sure his money will keep his company's banner ad on NVFAC's website, too.
Bob will remain #2 in my book, and I'm sure there were plenty of personal motivations for him to "want" to "resign," but I don't really care.
I'm sure his money will keep his company's banner ad on NVFAC's website, too.
Bmeierholtz
Regular Member
I have seen quite a bit about Bob in here. Now, can someone tell me how this may affect NVAC and why I should maybe join them now? Or do you guys think this will not solve the problem? Time to advertise for your group now guys.
wrightme
Regular Member
1) What 'problem' do you see that you feel needs solved?
2) If the goals the NVFAC has for the legislative session are the same as yours, what is giving you pause?
DON`T TREAD ON ME
Regular Member
I have seen these "aggressive" tactics from wrightme before.... answer his question with questions of your own NOT HELPFUL!
as a knowledgeable gun person the arguing and nit picking severely limits your effectiveness wrightme.... Jus sayin, (Cant we all just get along?) try some acceptance!
wrightme
Regular Member
'Going personal' severely limits your effectiveness DTOM. I suggest to you, 'try some acceptance, (cant we all just get along?).
It isn't 'nitpicking' to ask him to identify what he feels is a 'problem' when he has not stated it. The 'problems' most have presented here are of perception, and not of substance. The Bob Irwin issue was a valid point, as he spoke out with viewpoints that were NOT in line with that of either most OCDO posters, and also not in line with the NVFAC stated goals. Communication was a valid point, and between email traffic and facebook traffic, that has definitely changed for the better.
So, yes, it is quite valid to ask 'what problem' someone still sees.
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I've wanted to join NVFAC since their inception, and had my paperwork ready to go. And then I found out Bob was in their leadership. It made me hesitate. And then Bob just got worse and worse!
With Bob's ousting, I am joining. I do think they are a good organization, and most importantly, I think they will help make a difference.
I was a member, but left when Don Turner and the Board refused to rein Mr. Irwin in.
This has been posted before but when I complained about one of Mr. Irwin's 'pronouncements' as damaging to our pro-Second Amendment fight on the NVFAC forum, my thread was removed. When I questioned the thread's removal, I was told that I should contact Mr. Irwin directly. When I asked whether the board would take any action to keep Mr. Irwin from hurting our cause with his repeated verbal miscues, the answer was no. I immediately requested a cancellation of my membership (to their credit, my refund was mailed the next day).
NVFAC can overcome Mr. Irwin's continuing quotes to the anti-gun media, but the board is going to have to make some sort of statement to the membership about this fiasco. Acting like it never happened won't dispel the perception that they are following their own personal agendas. 'Closed' agendas and playing parliamentary games at membership meetings won't dispel the perception that the organization is not responsive to the voices of its members.
The primary goals of any pro-gun organization should be further the expansion of our Second Amendment rights, to prevent their infringement, and when the legislature is not in session, to promote the positive image of gun-owners.
mbogo
This has been posted before but when I complained about one of Mr. Irwin's 'pronouncements' as damaging to our pro-Second Amendment fight on the NVFAC forum, my thread was removed. When I questioned the thread's removal, I was told that I should contact Mr. Irwin directly. When I asked whether the board would take any action to keep Mr. Irwin from hurting our cause with his repeated verbal miscues, the answer was no. I immediately requested a cancellation of my membership (to their credit, my refund was mailed the next day).
NVFAC can overcome Mr. Irwin's continuing quotes to the anti-gun media, but the board is going to have to make some sort of statement to the membership about this fiasco. Acting like it never happened won't dispel the perception that they are following their own personal agendas. 'Closed' agendas and playing parliamentary games at membership meetings won't dispel the perception that the organization is not responsive to the voices of its members.
The primary goals of any pro-gun organization should be further the expansion of our Second Amendment rights, to prevent their infringement, and when the legislature is not in session, to promote the positive image of gun-owners.
mbogo
elga
Regular Member
I'll be joining!
I joined (number 485) and received an Email from a member of NV Shooters that said he joined because of my comments that Bob was fire..., er, resigned.
On the NV Shooters website, Guido, the owner of New Frontier Armory, is taking personal credit for Bob resigning. I know Bob made publicly bad comments about other gun shops, including Guido's, so he certainly had reason and clout to add to Bob's downfall.
On the NV Shooters website, Guido, the owner of New Frontier Armory, is taking personal credit for Bob resigning. I know Bob made publicly bad comments about other gun shops, including Guido's, so he certainly had reason and clout to add to Bob's downfall.
varminter22
Regular Member
Has there been a change to the nevadashooters.com website? Or is it currently down?
This morning, when I try to go to nevadashooters.com, I get this:
And for the record, I strongly suspect I also had a li'l something to do with the resignation.
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varminter22
Regular Member
Now, when trying to go to nevadashooters.com, I get this:
The Big Guy
Regular Member
Truth is, I think a bunch of folks had input into this beneficial change. Good show to everyone involved.
TBG
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varminter22
Regular Member
I certainly agree. Many citizens helped.
KBCraig
Regular Member
Even though he is no longer speaking for NVFAC, you can bet the media will continue going to him for quotes -- they already know him, and they know that what he says fits their narrative.
Be prepared to demand counter-quotes from your organization.
Be prepared to demand counter-quotes from your organization.