Seattle police leave rifle unattended on cruiser

sempercarry · Jun 29, 2011

The woman who drove off with it on her trunk needs to be disciplined for not going through proceadure and the man who forgot he put it there needs to be fired NOW! Inexcuseable.

Dave_pro2a · Jun 29, 2011

wrightme said:
As a civilian, I CAN own an M-16 that is not current manufacture.

Not in WA, unless you're grandfathered in pre-1994. It's a state law (RCW 9.41.190), not Fed.

RCW 9.41.190
Unlawful firearms -- Exceptions.

(1) It is unlawful for any person to manufacture, own, buy, sell, loan, furnish, transport, or have in possession or under control, any machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or any part designed and intended solely and exclusively for use in a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle, or in converting a weapon into a machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle; or to assemble or repair any machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle.

(2) This section shall not apply to:

(a) Any peace officer in the discharge of official duty or traveling to or from official duty, or to any officer or member of the armed forces of the United States or the state of Washington in the discharge of official duty or traveling to or from official duty; or

(b) A person, including an employee of such person if the employee has undergone fingerprinting and a background check, who or which is exempt from or licensed under federal law, and engaged in the production, manufacture, repair, or testing of machine guns, short-barreled shotguns, or short-barreled rifles:

(i) To be used or purchased by the armed forces of the United States;

(ii) To be used or purchased by federal, state, county, or municipal law enforcement agencies; or

(iii) For exportation in compliance with all applicable federal laws and regulations.

(3) It shall be an affirmative defense to a prosecution brought under this section that the machine gun, short-barreled shotgun, or short-barreled rifle was acquired prior to July 1, 1994, and is possessed in compliance with federal law.

(4) Any person violating this section is guilty of a class C felony.

Dave_pro2a · Jun 29, 2011

MSG Laigaie said:
I saw this on Q13 too. They commented several times that SPD did not know if the weapon was loaded. It seemed clear to me that a magazine was inserted in the well. Does SPD normally keep an EMPTY magazine in the weapons they use? I think not.

#1: All guns are always loaded
http://www.thegunzone.com/therules.html

How many NRA rules did they break?
http://www.nrahq.org/education/guide.asp

Police = fail Someone needs to photoshop that pic and make it famous

wrightme · Jun 29, 2011

Dave_pro2a said:
#1: All guns are always loaded
http://www.thegunzone.com/therules.html

How many NRA rules did they break?
http://www.nrahq.org/education/guide.asp

Police = fail Someone needs to photoshop that pic and make it famous

No, they are not.

"Treat all guns as if they are loaded."

Dave_pro2a · Jun 29, 2011

wrightme said:
No, they are not.

"Treat all guns as if they are loaded."

Don't tell me, tell Jeff Cooper http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_safety

There are a lot of variations of the basic gun rules, all essentially the same in content, intention and outcome.

DoomGoober · Jun 29, 2011

Don't worry! The officer purposely left the rifle there as part of "Project Gun Runner" and "Fast and Furious." They wanted a bad guy to pick it up and shoot someone, so they can charge them with a crime.

Metalhead47 · Jun 29, 2011

Dave_pro2a said:
Not in WA, unless you're grandfathered in pre-1994. It's a state law (RCW 9.41.190), not Fed.

Sure you can, right there in your quote. Youd have to be a gunsmith ffl with the proper tax stamp n such. Like someone said, lots of red tape, expense, n invasion of privacy, but quite possible and lawful.

Or you can go to wades in Bellevue n rent one at their range.

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Lucky_Dog · Jun 30, 2011

Or you can go to wades in Bellevue n rent one at their range.

I've put a box or two through their MP5.

Metalhead47 · Jun 30, 2011

Lucky_Dog said:
I've put a box or two through their MP5.

They have any special requirements or hoops to jump thru to rent a full auto? My mother-in-law's coming out here next week from NY and we thought she might get a kick out of renting an UZI.

Lucky_Dog · Jun 30, 2011

No. Only the rental and ammo cost.
I also had personal security performed by one of their RSOs until I was done.

gsx1138 · Jun 30, 2011

**** happens.

ak56 · Jun 30, 2011

Lucky_Dog said:
No. Only the rental and ammo cost.
I also had personal security performed by one of their RSOs until I was done.

I've watched others shoot those at Wade's. The magazines are emptied a LOT faster than you can load them.

Metalhead47 · Jul 1, 2011

ak56 said:
I've watched others shoot those at Wade's. The magazines are emptied a LOT faster than you can load them.

Exactly why machine guns should remain prohibited for the general public. Anything that fun and that expensive just shouldn't be legal.

At at their inflated ammo prices too I bet...

Lucky_Dog · Jul 1, 2011

The magazines are emptied a LOT faster than you can load them.

Indeed, one must exercise restraint or the fun ends much too soon.

Short bursts are in order...

sudden valley gunner · Jul 1, 2011

gsx1138 said:
**** happens.

+1

Dem0072 · Jul 4, 2011

You just know there's people in the hood swearing up & down that they didn't cash in on that one...

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