Voter Fraud stole the election

The presidential results combined with the senate results, and ballot measures (in other states to) is unbelievable, there is no way they could almost all go liberal, I believe that there was massive voter fraud.

Just immediately up to the election I was reading multiple reports of thousands of missing absentee ballots, and coincidentally the early votes just "happened" to amount to as much as 40% of the vote in some states, and were up to 60%-70% for obongo. Then you had record turnout in mostly democrat areas, and I also noticed a highly unusual traffic volume yesterday, like people were rushing to multiple polls. Add to that the reported illegal votes at several polling stations, and what I observed myself at mine, which was a complete failure to check people against the voter rolls, or properly verify ID's. Then there were the thousands of Republican seniors in Florida that got an official looking letter telling them that they were ineligible to vote, and the reports of more letters telling Republicans that due to hurricane sandy they couldn't vote until Wednesday. Also I say at least one news report of the black panthers intimidating voters again, one polling station even had had mural of obongo staring down over the voters. Add it all up, and you get the most obviously rigged election in US history.

While I have no doubt there was voter fraud that took place, I just can't see there being enough, across multiple states, to account for the beating we took. Bottom line, I just think the majority of the country are so dependent on big government now, they came out in droves again to make sure their meal ticket doesn't get cut off. My worst fear is that the country has shifted so far to the liberal left, I don't know if we'll ever see another conservative president in my lifetime.

We have really become two Americas at this point.

Until all the remaining boxes of ballots float up on the Florida shore, we won't know how bad the voter fraud actually was.

We need to wait on the tide to come in first.

Sheesh.

thachman said:

While I have no doubt there was voter fraud that took place, I just can't see there being enough, across multiple states, to account for the beating we took. Bottom line, I just think the majority of the country are so dependent on big government now, they came out in droves again to make sure their meal ticket doesn't get cut off. My worst fear is that the country has shifted so far to the liberal left, I don't know if we'll ever see another conservative president in my lifetime.

We have really become two Americas at this point.

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I agree that there was unlikely to have been voter fraud on such a massive scale.

But I don't believe your reason is correct. I believe America is saying that liberty means staying out of their lives, their bedrooms, their marriage contracts, their reproductive organs, their medical records, and their churches. The religious faction of the Republican Party is scaring away voters, in my opinion.

Well military ballots that were never sent votes being placed next to a giant mural of the president. Nope don't see anything funny going on.

Just one question: How many states, if any, require a photo ID before being allowed to vote?

I believe the answer to that one question will tell you whether or not there was voter fraud.

After all, Obama got his start in a state that is famous for being able to resurrect the dead at election time!

Tess said:

I agree that there was unlikely to have been voter fraud on such a massive scale.

But I don't believe your reason is correct. I believe America is saying that liberty means staying out of their lives, their bedrooms, their marriage contracts, their reproductive organs, their medical records, and their churches. The religious faction of the Republican Party is scaring away voters, in my opinion.

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You don't vote Santa Clause out of office.

Note: Heard that on the radio.

thachman said:

While I have no doubt there was voter fraud that took place, I just can't see there being enough, across multiple states, to account for the beating we took. Bottom line, I just think the majority of the country are so dependent on big government now, they came out in droves again to make sure their meal ticket doesn't get cut off.

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exactly what happened, bummer gave the lazies a sample and in return they voted him in to keep the free stuff.

they will be getting what they voted for in time.

Like I said, it's all rigged

I knew Obama was going to get elected months ago.

He was ordained the winner long before the campaigning started that is why the GOP offered a lame duck like Romney and denied Ron Paul.

If Ron Paul had made the ballot he would likely have won by a landslide so the tweaking of the voting boxes would be screamed about from the roof tops.

So they presented Romney so as to keep it a close race so the numbers could be fudged without anyone being able to really prove it.

If the Republican Party wanted a conservative to win, they should have nominated one.

No. It didn't. The Republican candidate just sucked and the majority of the American voters recognized it and voted accordingly.

Freedom1Man said:

I knew Obama was going to get elected months ago.

He was ordained the winner long before the campaigning started that is why the GOP offered a lame duck like Romney and denied Ron Paul.

If Ron Paul had made the ballot he would likely have won by a landslide so the tweaking of the voting boxes would be screamed about from the roof tops.

So they presented Romney so as to keep it a close race so the numbers could be fudged without anyone being able to really prove it.

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If Ron Paul had been the candidate (would never happen) obango would not have needed to cheat.

The choice between a communist, and a mental patient is not a choice.

Lets not turn this in to a Ron Paul thread.

Small_Arms_Collector said:

Lets not turn this in to a Ron Paul thread.

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So, you would rather continue ignoring the root issue, and blame it on something you can't prove?

The GOP didn't just fail to welcome Paul and his supporters; they actively pissed on them and told them to go away. They did.

Here's something we can prove: the number of votes Paul received in the primaries in at least five states was greater than Obama's margin of victory over Romney in the general election. The number of electoral votes in those states adds up to 71, and would have given Romney the presidency.

So, how's that strategy of shutting out the liberty coalition working out for you, GOP?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/1...ction-by-disenfranchising-ron-paul-supporters

KBCraig said:

...So, how's that strategy of shutting out the liberty coalition working out for you, GOP?

http://www.policymic.com/articles/1...ction-by-disenfranchising-ron-paul-supporters

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That's a powerful article. Thank you. I was hoping to see something like that.

It assumes that those who voted for Romney would have voted for Paul, but that's not much of a stretch considering how many R votes were anti-D votes, this year more than ever.

At my caucus there was more than 50% of the people there for Paul, yet the precinct chair(?) gets a vote that was automatically 50% vote in most precincts for the regular R, and then the Santorum, Gingrich lovers got together to make sure to shut the Paul people out.

The Republicans killed themselves this last election, they are DOA. We don't need two fascist socialist parties, oh I am sure they'll limp along but they will think that the way to win next time is endear themselves even more to socialisism/fascism, becoming even more indistinguishable from the other major party, they barely are different from now.

MAC702 said:

That's a powerful article. Thank you. I was hoping to see something like that.

It assumes that those who voted for Romney would have voted for Paul, but that's not much of a stretch considering how many R votes were anti-D votes, this year more than ever.

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I know lots of D's that would have voted Paul too, but they wouldn't want Romney to win.

Here's the truth as I see it.

If the Republican Party would get off the topics of gay marriage, pot prohibition, and get the hell out of women's uteruses, and give an actual plan to do something about the debt, they would all get elected in landslides. Average America is sick and tired of the religious platforms running elections. Oh, and quit making **** up about the other candidate. Most people know how to use the internet, and these claims are easy to verify or refute. The far right has lost credibility with the middle in America.

every delegate from Okanogan County was a Ron Paul delegate...every single one...what does that tell you?

Romney did win Okanogan Co, but barely...even though every other political office in this county is owned by the Republicians by at least 20% or more. Goldmark (lands) and was re-elected to the state office. Goldmark is from Okanogan County , but lost to Clint Didier in Okanogan Co by 15%...What does that tell you?

BTW: Not only would Ron Paul have taken the Republician and most of the independents, he would have taken a lot of Democrats along too.

How can a party claim to be pro liberty and so violently oppose gay marriage, legalization of marijuana, and legal abortion? Oh, wait. I'm starting to sound like a libertarian. or a librarian.. shhhhhh!

okiebryan said:

How can a party claim to be pro liberty and so violently oppose gay marriage, legalization of marijuana, and legal abortion? Oh, wait. I'm starting to sound like a libertarian. or a librarian.. shhhhhh!

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They also believe in unconstitutional foreign aggression without congress approval. They believe in and are willing to put people to death over unconstitutional drug wars. The want the change of language that grants them powers not intended in the constitution, commerce clause, general welfare, regulate. They ignore the 9th and 10th amendments and believe in a strong central national power. They are very pro unconstitutional proactive law enforcement. They are reluctant to admit the true reason of the 2A.

I'm not sure if it was Rothbard or Flynn since it was an article Rothbard wrote about Flynn, they define both parties as fascists/socialist, the only difference really is they argue about who the producers are.

DangerClose said:

If the Republican Party wanted a conservative to win, they should have nominated one.

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I couldn't agree more.

If a Libertarian was on the Republican ticket, they would have won, IMO--hell, they would have got my vote. Instead, I voted for the Kenyan version of Obamney.