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"When Cops Lie" -- about man with handgun

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From the L.A. Times:
When Compton jurors recently deliberated the fate of a man charged with possessing a concealed firearm, they thought the evidence was overwhelming — not that the man was guilty but that the Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies who testified against him had lied.

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"These were not minor inconsistencies…. These were outright fabrications," said juror Ted Rhodes, 28, a construction project manager. "It'll be an injustice … if someone isn't held accountable."

For all the breakthroughs in DNA and other forensic evidence, the criminal justice system still depends heavily on the honesty and accuracy of law enforcement officers. In recent years, the age-old defense strategy of attacking the credibility of police has been aided by the proliferation of security surveillance and cellphone cameras, which have given bystanders the ability to record officers' encounters with suspects.

Still, it is rare for jurors to publicly say they believe law enforcement officers lied under oath.

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Gipson's attorney, Alla Eksler, said her client declared his innocence and yelled in the courtroom, "Fingerprint the gun!" The revolver was never fingerprinted, Eksler said.

After the hearing, Eksler learned there was a video of the arrest that had been shot by a guest at the party.

The footage did not show Gipson running, tossing a gun or walking back to the deputies to be detained. Instead, the grainy video showed deputies arriving and walking past Gipson, who was standing against a wall of the house near the rear of the yard. One of the deputies, Raul Ibarra, returned to Gipson and escorted him to the back of the yard.

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The arrest report, written by Deputy Curtis Brown, indicated that Brown and the other deputies had seen Gipson with a weapon, using the word "we" to describe their observations of the suspect. During the trial, however, only Belville testified that he had seen Gipson with a gun. Brown and two other deputies at the scene testified that they had not.

"We just thought it was one lie after another," said juror Cynthia Reyes, 29, who is unemployed.

Some jurors criticized the district attorney's office.

"Why … did they go along with this case and waste taxpayer money … and risk imprisoning an innocent person when the evidence was so clear?" asked David Song, 32, a corporate spokesman who served as jury foreman.

District attorney's spokeswoman Sandi Gibbons said prosecutors pressed ahead with the case after hearing deputies explain their actions while viewing a slowed version of the footage.

"We believe that the video did not contradict the officers' testimony," she said.

Belville, Ibarra and Brown all declined to comment.

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Gipson, who spent more than a month in jail, disagreed, describing himself as a victim of police misconduct.

"I never thought an officer would lie," he said.

If cops will lie about concealed guns, why not lie about open-carry guns? Why, the suspect was brandishing! Lie.

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[size=+1]David Gibson -- Innocent Man falsely accused of having a gun[/size]
 

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I dont see this as a cop bashing article and nor would I ever bash an officer of the law. But that last line "I never though an officer would lie" tells of what wrong with America today. No accountability, its almost completely vanished from America, from retail, to corporations, and onto politics and the judicial system. I dont want this to go off topic so I will stop, but it bothers me to see this happening and so many sheeple not caring about it.



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I resent these sorts of threads. Obviously, the jurors are lying. They've probably all received speeding tickets they deserved, and are cop-haters unwilling to take responsibility for their actions.

There is just no way several cops would all lie. We all know cops are paragons of virtue and veritas. One liar cop every twenty years--maybe. But, this deliberate smear campaign against several cops by a runaway jury drunk on momentary power is absurd.

Just wait. The rest of the police in that area will soon come to the rescue of their colleagues. The denunciations will begin any moment. The other police will know who the real liars are.

Anybody who believes this news report is unAmerican, unpatriotic, and a cop-hater.

There. I said it. With a straight face.

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Well, almost with a straight face.

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He must be very short too since they could only get his head in the picture.

Short people got no reason.
 

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So we have again multiple cops committing a felony, that gets overlooked? Sad.

Oh, sometimes they get charged. Well, some of the officers involved, anyway. When there is so much evidence against them, it would have political consequences for the DA not to charge them.

For example, remember the college student beaten by police last year at Univ of Maryland? The one where the security video tape disappeared, then magically reappeared? The one where the security supervisor in charge of the video tape is married to one of the cops in video? Well, cops been indicted! Read more about it at the link below. While reading, notice that liar cop who wrote the charge sheet is still on the job. (He wrote that the beaten man assaulted the horse cops, and his injuries were caused by the horses). The beater cops are still drawing pay. And, of all the cops in the video, none came forward to correct the story, correct the charge sheet, etc. Now, what do you suppose are the odds that the only nine bad cops in the whole department just happened to be the ones on that street corner at that time?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/local/xxxx/2011/09/20/gIQAMYbviK_story.html


And, for another example, remember Kelly Thomas? The homeless man beaten to death by cops a few months back? To where his hospital-bed photo is not even recognizeable as the same man in family photos? The one who plead for his life and his dad, while being beaten and tazered into a coma from which he would never awake? The one where cell phone video and witness statements were overwhelming? Cops now charged!! While reading about it at the link below, notice that of the several cops present, none tried to stop the beating. Now, what do you suppose are the odds that the only 3-4 bad cops in the whole department just happened to be the ones at that location?

http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2011/09/da-announces-kelly-thomas-murder-charges.html

In Kelly Thomas's case the Blue Wall of Silence was lethal.
 
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The lesson in these stories is to always record. If you see something record it.

We the People are the new media.

If it wasn't for that one video recording posted to Youtube the world would have never heard the name Kelly Thomas. If it wasn't for the people protesting on daily basis and filing recall papers we never would have seen an arrest.

We have the power. We need to start using it.
 

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The lesson in these stories is to always record. If you see something record it.

We the People are the new media.

If it wasn't for that one video recording posted to Youtube the world would have never heard the name Kelly Thomas. If it wasn't for the people protesting on daily basis and filing recall papers we never would have seen an arrest.

We have the power. We need to start using it.

We were always meant to be the media. State sanctioned media with federal licensing is a bunch of crock.

sWhat we really need is for the court system to place a higher level of mistrust in LE than is currently the case. The "evidence" of officially sanctioned cover-up by LE when they have violated the law is ever increasing. Case in point, Indiana Supreme Court decision on resisting obviously unlawful LE actions. When the court system starts levying hefty sanctions against LE for their misdeeds then the Blue Wall of Silence will start to crumple. When a cop expects to be heavily punished for participating in officially sanctioned cover-ups then the self preservation "gene" will kick in and the Blue Wall of Silence will start to crumble.

Cops are taking advantage more regularly, at the expense of the citizenry, the leniency that the courts have proved to cops when they are proven to have violated the law.

It must be peace officer, not police officer.

These thoughts bother many in the blue, they love being part of a paramilitary group, they love law enforcement. They are not pro freedom, no matter how many times they declare they are. They work and are provided by the state and promote etatism.

The Brittish were experimenting with modern police force around the time of the founding, maybe why Americans took decades before adopting them. In Ireland the first police force was to quell and keep "peace" by the occupiers against the occupied.

In the "Wild" West, peace officers did a way better job before "civilization" was adopted, it actually shows that a form of Anarchy where people are free and liberal to make their own decisions they will adopt methods that work and protect that freedom. Violence actually went up after formal governmental forms of law enforcement were introduced. People have a natural resistance to resist "state" laws that conflict with a personal moral or ethics code.

http://mises.org/daily/5651/To-Serve-and-Protect-the-State

[URL]http://mises.org/daily/4108/The-Not-So-Wild-Wild-West
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The one where cell phone video and witness statements were overwhelming? Cops now charged!! While reading about it at the link below, notice that of the several cops present, none tried to stop the beating.
You'll note that the cops that stood around and did nothing weren't charged, and the low level of the charges brought against the other two. If they were civilians, the other 4 would have been charged as accessories, and the first two would both be facing murder charges, rather than only one of them.
 

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We were always meant to be the media. State sanctioned media with federal licensing is a bunch of crock.

This is interesting: Make your own press pass. Or pay the fee, but I like the free version, better. My publisher? At this moment, it's FOTP, LLC. Well, not an LLC, yet.

FOTP - Freedom of the Press.

It doesn't take a rocket scientist to prove in a court of law that there's no minimum criteria to be called "press" other than proving you've been published.

^^^ Here's my proof.

^^ Here's some more...
 
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