I'm trying to get Senator Vogel too. Her aid is tied up right now.
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SB 1250 State-wide Preemption to be Heard 2-1-2011
- Thread starter Virginiaplanter
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I'm trying to get Senator Vogel too. Her aid is tied up right now.
mpd8488
Regular Member
Just received this:
Dear Mr. ********,
The full Rules Committee is expected to meet this Friday and expected to vote on SB 1250.
Hope this helps.
Arlene
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Arlene Spinelli
Legislative Assistant
District 31
Senate of Virginia
Dear Mr. ********,
The full Rules Committee is expected to meet this Friday and expected to vote on SB 1250.
Hope this helps.
Arlene
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Arlene Spinelli
Legislative Assistant
District 31
Senate of Virginia
Appreciate the heads up.
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TFred
Regular Member
Do the full committees allow citizens to speak to bills?
TFred
TFred
Yes!
TFred
Regular Member
Thanks I couldn't remember. They do seem a bit more formal than the small atmosphere of the sub-committees.
TFred
They are a little more formal but there is more room, and the press box has hookups so I can plug my recorders directly into the sound system so I don't have to hide wireless mics all over the room.:lol:
Repeater
Regular Member
The Rule Book
Senate Rules
Rule 19(a) specifies exactly what can be referred to the Rules Committee. It would appear that Senator Vogel's bill should not have been referred there.
Senate Rules
Rule 19(a) specifies exactly what can be referred to the Rules Committee. It would appear that Senator Vogel's bill should not have been referred there.
It may be DOA then. It's probably too late to get it into the proper committee and certainly too late to be assigned a sub committee.
I asked Philip why it went to rules before the session started. He didn't have a clue either.
TFred
Regular Member
The Senate doesn't exactly have a good track record of following their own rules these past two sessions, why should they start now?
If nothing else, it should be apparent by now that they are going to do whatever they want to do, without regard to the consequence.
It would appear that we as citizens have been relegated to the role of frustrated observer, which will hopefully translate into very motivated voter this Fall.
TFred
Repeater
Regular Member
System is rigged
If you look at the Code of Virginia, Title 2.2 (Administration of Government), and then look at various bills that became law, you will see they were referred to General Laws and Technology.
If you look at the Committee members, it appears much friendlier to gun owners than Rules. It even includes Senator Vogel as a member.
Senator Vogel's bill would become a part of Chapter 6. You will see Senator Mim's fingerprints in that chapter.
If you look at the Code of Virginia, Title 2.2 (Administration of Government), and then look at various bills that became law, you will see they were referred to General Laws and Technology.
If you look at the Committee members, it appears much friendlier to gun owners than Rules. It even includes Senator Vogel as a member.
Senator Vogel's bill would become a part of Chapter 6. You will see Senator Mim's fingerprints in that chapter.
Repeater
Regular Member
Is this just more of the senate violating their own rules to allow the rule by a few?
hunter45
Regular Member
I just got a letter in the mail from Dave Marsden saying he does not support SB1250. The letter was full of BS...one of his reasons for not supporting the bill was because there are young people on college campuses.
Virginiaplanter
Regular Member
Senate Rules
It looks like the Senate Rules therefore is the appropriate committee because upon introduction it was referred to them.
Va. Const. Art. IV § 11 "No bill shall become a law unless, prior to its passage: (a) it has been referred to a committee of each house, considered by such committee in session, and reported;"
Under the Constitution it doesn't mater what committee reports it, only that it be reported by a committee.
It looks like the Senate Rules therefore is the appropriate committee because upon introduction it was referred to them.
Va. Const. Art. IV § 11 "No bill shall become a law unless, prior to its passage: (a) it has been referred to a committee of each house, considered by such committee in session, and reported;"
Under the Constitution it doesn't mater what committee reports it, only that it be reported by a committee.
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I don't know GS!
Right now this seems to be a mystery to everyone but Whipple who ain't talking.
Vogel is concerned that it is just a shadow of Marsh's shenanigans.
keymo
New member
Well...for what good it may do, I sent a paraphrased version of Tfred's statement to my senator (Herring) plus various members of the rules committee.
Virginiaplanter
Regular Member
SB 1250 Heard in Committee Friday 2/4/2011
SB 1250 State-wide Firearm Preemption is to be heard tomorrow at 10:00am in the Full Senate Rules Committee
If you haven't done so please contact the full committee and express your support that the bill be affirmatively reported out without alteration and that it not passed onto another committee.
SB 1250 State-wide Firearm Preemption is to be heard tomorrow at 10:00am in the Full Senate Rules Committee
If you haven't done so please contact the full committee and express your support that the bill be affirmatively reported out without alteration and that it not passed onto another committee.
Well at least it is out of the closet. Never did get a return phone call from the chairperson.