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Con carry rally this saturday!

Glock9mmOldStyle

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Cool!

It was awesome to see many new faces & quite a few OC friends from prior gatherings. (This includes the Klingon Warrior known as ONNIE), WARCHILD, Venator, The Q, General Detroit, Joe Car, Small Arms Collector, Michigander, HammanEggs & many others ;)

Lots of good speeches. Lots of MGO folks on hand too. A good time had by all I saw. I call this a good day for gun rights/civil rights in Lansing.

Well done people. Lansing 10 news will run a story tonight :D
 
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It was awesome to see many new faces & quite a few OC friends from prior gatherings. (This includes the Klingon Warrior known as ONNIE), WARCHILD, Venator, The Q, General Detroit, Joe Car, Small Arms Collector, Michigander, HammanEggs & many others ;)

Lots of good speeches. Lots of MGO folks on hand too. A good time had by all I saw. I call this a good day for gun rights/civil rights in Lansing.

Well done people. Lansing 10 news will run a story tonight :D

I want to thank you for picking up the tab for dinner for the group after the rally including the organizers and Keynote speaker Larry Pratt.

Thanks man you are a scholar and a gentleman, regardless of what the others say....:)
 

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Great article by Mlive, terrible picture though.

http://www.mlive.com/news/index.ssf/2012/05/gun-toting_michiganders_promot.html

LANSING, MI — Gun rights activists from throughout Michigan gathered at the Capitol on Saturday to promote easing restrictions on carrying firearms.
The group wants Michigan to become a “constitutional carry” state, where concealed weapon licenses are not required and there generally aren’t restrictions on how or where guns are carried. Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming have similar laws.
“What we are trying to accomplish by this rally and future and ongoing efforts, is having our Second Amendment rights restored back to their original intent as laid out in our Constitution by our Founding Fathers,” said John Roshek, president of the Citizens League for Self Defense.
“I don’t know about you, but personally I find it a little absurd that I can walk down the street, I can lawfully open carry, but if I want to put my coat on because it's cold or If I want to get in my car, I have to get a permission slip from the state and I have to pay a fee on top of that,” he said to a crowd of about 100 people as the rally kicked off Saturday afternoon.
Michigan allows residents to openly carry legally owned firearms without a license except for in certain pistol-free areas. There also are restrictions on transporting guns without a license. Concealed pistol license holders may carry guns hidden from view in certain areas.
Lawmakers are considering a major overhaul of the concealed handgun law that would streamline licensing and allow permit holders with extra training to carry hidden handguns in “gun-free” zones like schools, college classrooms, and other places they are now banned.
Related: Sweeping changes proposed for Michigan concealed handgun law
Grand Rapids resident Tim Beahan, 54, supports the legislation.
“Right now we have a patchwork of agencies that are taking care of the concealed pistol licenses and unfortunately there’s no consistency,” he said, adding that some jurisdictions take much longer to administer licenses than others.
But given the choice, he’d prefer Michigan remove restrictions and become the fifth “constitutional carry” state. Beahan and his wife, Sandra, said they open carry to protect themselves from people who may view them as an easy target.
Those in favor of gun control say stricter regulations save lives and help keep guns away from dangerous people. Constitutional carry supporters say just the opposite.
“It will not increase crime, and very likely, in places like Detroit where they’ve had great restrictions and in other anti-Second Amendment jurisdictions, you’re going to see crime go down, because the crooks are going to know, ‘Uh oh, he might be carrying, she might be carrying,’” said Larry Pratt, executive director of Gun Owners of America, a national lobby group based in Springfield, Va.
For 14-year-old Bretta Overly of Lansing and her friend, Alexis Farmer, 13, of Grand Ledge, both said they feel safer knowing their fathers have guns.
They also plan to carry firearms when they’re old enough. Michigan residents must be 18 to openly carry and 21 to apply for a concealed pistol license.
Jeremiah Chesney, 22, of Jackson, said he carries his shotgun down the street to desensitize the public.
“There are some people who react very strongly and negatively, but I think the more that people see firearms carried peacefully, the less they’ll expect sort of action-movie things to happen,” he said. “I think there are a lot of people whose only exposure to firearms is through violence in films. I don’t think that’s constructive.”
 

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Another good article- no bias, no slant, no spin

http://www.lansingstatejournal.com/...sey=tab|topnews|text|FRONTPAGE&nclick_check=1

Armed with rifles, pistols, flags and banners, about 150 people rallied for gun rights Saturday on the lawn of the Capitol, warning lawmakers not to rollback firearms possession laws such as “stand your ground.”

Speakers urged lawmakers to expand gun rights by making Michigan the fifth U.S. state to adopt “constitutional carry,” essentially removing restrictions and licensing provisions for concealed carry.

Michigan already allows open carry for those 18 or older who are carrying a firearm that is legally registered and holstered in plain view, said rally organizer John Roshek, president of the Citizens League for Self Defense.

“Constitutional carry is about having no permits or permission slips from the state in order to be able to carry a gun,” he said. “It starts with repealing all pistol-free zones. It starts with repealing the concealed pistol license laws. We feel if you are legally able to obtain and purchase a firearm that is the only permit you should need.”
 

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Ever notice at events: most all the media makes their focus of pictures on those dressed in camo BDU's and shoulder carried "evil long guns"!!!
I see no pics of the host or any of the speakers present. Seldom, if ever, is the pic of an "average" citizen with a holstered firearm.
Their biased agenda is truly sickening!
 

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Ever notice at events: most all the media makes their focus of pictures on those dressed in camo BDU's and shoulder carried "evil long guns"!!!
I see no pics of the host or any of the speakers present. Seldom, if ever, is the pic of an "average" citizen with a holstered firearm.
Their biased agenda is truly sickening!

True- note to fellow attendees- please pick another day to take a fashion risk- don't play into the agendas of the foes of basic human rights.

Note to all- its about HUMAN rights, not GUN rights. Guns have no rights, HUMANS do. We've been duped by the forces of darkness to use their terminology. Lets switch the the correct name for the problem- we're being deprived of our HUMAN RIGHTS.
 

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http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120519/METRO/205190365/1409/rss36

Gun rights supporters rally at state Capitol

By Associated Press
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Lansing- More than 100 people turned out at the Michigan Capitol to call for a law that would allow them to carry concealed guns without permits anywhere in the state.

The event Saturday was aimed at encouraging Michigan lawmakers to join a handful of states where laws generally don't restrict how or where a gun is carried or require a concealed weapon license. Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming have similar laws.

The Citizens League for Self Defense says it wants Michigan to become the fifth state. The group's president, John Roshek, says it's a "little absurd" to be allowed to show a gun while walking down a street but barred from wearing it under a coat without permission.



From The Detroit News: http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20120519/METRO/205190365#ixzz1vQ35EGfZ
 

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http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/...-law/-/1719418/13491692/-/5r7yt9/-/index.html

LANSING, Mich. -
More than 100 people turned out at the Michigan Capitol to call for a law that would allow them to carry concealed guns without permits anywhere in the state.

The event Saturday was aimed at encouraging Michigan lawmakers to join a handful of states where laws generally don't restrict how or where a gun is carried or require a concealed weapon license. Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming have similar laws.

The Citizens League for Self Defense says it wants Michigan to become the fifth state. The group's president, John Roshek, says it's a "little absurd" to be allowed to show a gun while walking down a street but barred from wearing it under a coat without permission.
 

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http://www.upnorthlive.com/news/story.aspx?id=755853#.T7j8P9w7WWJ


LANSING -- LANSING, Mich. (AP) - More than 100 people turned out at the Michigan Capitol to call for a law that would allow them to carry concealed guns without permits anywhere in the state.

The event Saturday was aimed at encouraging Michigan lawmakers to join a handful of states where laws generally don't restrict how or where a gun is carried or require a concealed weapon license. Vermont, Alaska, Arizona and Wyoming have similar laws.

The Citizens League for Self Defense says it wants Michigan to become the fifth state. The group's president, John Roshek, says it's a "little absurd" to be allowed to show a gun while walking down a street but barred from wearing it under a coat without permission.
 

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http://www.wlns.com/story/18563507/...-dozens-of-weapon-bearing-citizens-to-capitol

LANSING, Mich. (WLNS) – More than 100 people with their guns on display gathered on Saturday at the state capitol to voice their belief in their right the bear arms. It was all part of a Constitutional Carry rally sponsored by the Citizens League for Self-Defense.

John Rosek, the organization's president, says Constitutional Carry simply means using the second amendment as the only guide for carrying a concealed weapon – even without a permit or license.

"We want to get all pistol-free zones, concealed pistol license laws repealed. We want to go back to the original intent as laid out in our constitution in regards to the second amendment," says Rosek.

Others at the rally say they also believe that Constitutional Carry will help cut down on crime.

"The criminals are going to have guns regardless. If they see other people with guns, they're going to be less likely to use them," says Jim Gulliksen of the Michigan Militia.

Currently, only four states nationwide have adopted Constitutional Carry. Having this as law would allow concealed weapons in places like churches, banks, theaters, hospitals and day care centers.

Right now in Michigan, anyone wishing to carry concealed weapons must apply and be approved for a CPL (concealed pistol license).
 

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Ever notice at events: most all the media makes their focus of pictures on those dressed in camo BDU's and shoulder carried "evil long guns"!!!
I see no pics of the host or any of the speakers present. Seldom, if ever, is the pic of an "average" citizen with a holstered firearm.
Their biased agenda is truly sickening!



I noticed this too... overwhelming majority of people wearing jeans and Tshirts/polo shirts and OCing a pistol.. but they only show guys in fatigues and carrying rifles. I have less problem with the rifle than the fatigues. (actually no prob with rifles) One would think that the militia guys would take a hint. This happens every time. They give off the impression that they're trying to play rambo and the majority of people think they are nothing but whackos.



Here's how you should be dressing at rallys and OC events... Like a professional shooter.


https://www.google.com/search?hl=en...urce=og&sa=N&tab=wi&ei=d2G5T7OcC4G88AS4zp3LCg
Jerry_Miculek-large.jpg

Otherwise you pretty much look like this to the average citizen.

second-amendment-idiots.jpeg
 
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only some of the militia guys...i know there were 4 others that i know to be militia members in plainclothes(two from wmvm, pictured in the LSJ article with a slung sks and AK pistol, two from ccm with just pistols)
 

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It usually like a bunch of fat, middle aged white guys in too small tee shirts, or youngsters that got dressed at a garage sale, in the dark, without a mirror.

For everyone's sake, lets look at least professional and approachable. Basically, if you wouldn't wear it to church or a job interview, leave it in the closet. Or, don't come; You're not helping.

There were, however, two of my Islamic brothers in attendance. Only got a chance to say 'salaam' to one. They were dressed appropriately, to make a good impression and show personal dignity.
 

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I think saying that if you wouldn't wear it to church or an interview or it isn't helping is a little bit of overkill. Nothing wrong with a polo and jeans or the like. It's about looking normal...I completely agree with that. If you restrict it to "church/interview" wear you would lose your numbers...and numbers are important.
 

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I would like to thank all of you that came out to the rally. It was a great line-up of speakers. The band sounded great and the weather couldn't have been better.

I want to thank the Michigan pro-gun groups that were represented there on Saturday. MGO, MCRGOs, 2nd Amendment March, and Citizens League for Self-defense and all the behind the scenes volunteers, wives, friends and gun supporters. Thank you.

I want to thank Larry Pratt, Doc Thompson, Steven Dulan, Mike Trebesh, and Mike Thiede for taking the time to attend and to do it without financial profit to themselves. I also thank John Roshek for organizing the rally.

 
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I think saying that if you wouldn't wear it to church or an interview or it isn't helping is a little bit of overkill. Nothing wrong with a polo and jeans or the like. It's about looking normal...I completely agree with that. If you restrict it to "church/interview" wear you would lose your numbers...and numbers are important.

Jeans and a polo are fine for church; at least the ones I've been to....
 
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About clothing in church......... God has seen me naked. In fact... I stand before God everyday naked as the day He created me. I do not believe God gives a fart in a windstorm how my body looks because God does not judge my respect for Him by the clothes I wear... only people do that... and all those hypocrites who expect to be impressed by my Sunday clothes, or look down on me because I'm not wearing a suit, are not as important as God... although they might think they are.

About dressing to impress people... now there lies the choice since if I want to further an agenda that I have then it would be wise to use manner of dress to present myself in a way that is favorable to... furthering my agenda.

When applying for a job with a farmer if I want the job it would not be wise to show up in a Tux... and by the same token when applying for a job as a banker it would not be wise to show up in bib overalls.

So... if I want to further my agenda of making the carrying of guns appear normal and unintimidating... then it would be wise to not dress like Rambo.
 
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@Bikenut - once again Sir, your wisdom is inspiring. :D

No knock at the militia guys, but isn't the purpose of camo to be hidden from sight/blend in with the background? BDU's in a down town environment is not the way to blend in. Business casual would be the way to go one would think....? That's what I wore & I might as well of been invisible - adrift in a ocean of dockers :p

Giving up civil rights for security is a certain way to lose both! :eek:
 
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