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Who's packing heat in Washington?
- Thread starter gogodawgs
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Sparky508
Newbie
These numbers seem shockingly low to me, but I guess I have to consider the company I keep when I say that. I would have guessed it to be more in the teens across the board rather than in only a couple of counties. 
ncwabbit
Regular Member
OP is there any cite to that graphic you posted so i could do more research on their analysis?
please disregard my request as i pushed my browser to find the article and as suspected, there is no correlation w/any type of time frame associated w/the Seattle Times graphic in their article. http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-guy/2012/12/21/whos-packing-heat-in-washington/
the Seattle Times references politically based NY Times article is equally bogus as it makes broad statements such as quote: Gun ownership has declined over the past 40 years — but almost all of the decrease has come from Democrats. unquote. using data from '73 and discredited '08 & '10 general social survey data.
tks
wabbit
please disregard my request as i pushed my browser to find the article and as suspected, there is no correlation w/any type of time frame associated w/the Seattle Times graphic in their article. http://blogs.seattletimes.com/fyi-guy/2012/12/21/whos-packing-heat-in-washington/
the Seattle Times references politically based NY Times article is equally bogus as it makes broad statements such as quote: Gun ownership has declined over the past 40 years — but almost all of the decrease has come from Democrats. unquote. using data from '73 and discredited '08 & '10 general social survey data.
tks
wabbit
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sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
And those who don't ask for permission to carry?
BigDave
Opt-Out Members
You are referring to those who don't asked permission to legally carry, right! Not those who carry illegally!
FMJ 911
Regular Member
Only 7.43% in Snohomish County? Sounds 92.57% too low if you ask me.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Nope. I leave my permission slip where it's needed, but it is foolish to think that everyone asks government permission to carry. And I don't care if they do.
BigDave
Opt-Out Members
And that is just it, it doesn't matter if you care or not, it does matter to most.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
So, I made a statement of fact. I didn't say say it mattered or not, I don't care if people carry guns without permission slips the government law and restrictions infringe on liberty more than it protects me. I just assume everyone are armed it is foolish in my opinion not to do so.If these figures don't take into account those who are carrying without permission slips, whether legally or not than the figures are much higher than the graph would indicate.
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hermannr
Regular Member
Our Christmas eve childrens service is always packed, but Christmas day service usually has only a few. Christmas day service I was complaining because Stevens pass was closed so it was going to be difficult for my wife and I to get back home to the Highlands. One of the retired pastors that attends our services suggested Allison pass (In BC). I said, that would be an option except for my carry, and pointed to my hip.
What a discussion..out of 23 adults, there were 5 other people carrying (all concealed) and what a varity of pistols....I knew about two of them before, but not the other 3.
What a discussion..out of 23 adults, there were 5 other people carrying (all concealed) and what a varity of pistols....I knew about two of them before, but not the other 3.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Not a bad ratio even better if the many of the adults were couples.
Bookman
Campaign Veteran
I Googled to find out the population of Washington (6,830,018 as of 2011) then divided that into 385,000 which is the approximate number of CPL holders in the state. This showed that the percentage of CPL holders in the state is about 5.64%. This is only CPL holders. I don't think including those who carry without one would make an appreciable difference.
slapmonkay
Campaign Veteran
Do these numbers include children and those under 21? Most of the time, I find reports like these do not filter on age for population. I had done the research given latest censuus data that Monroe had a 14% rate for CPLs.
Metalhead47
Regular Member
SO.....
How long ya think before they go out & publish names & addresses too like that fool paper in NY did? :banghead:
Vitaeus
Regular Member
RCW 9.41.129
Recordkeeping requirements.
The department of licensing may keep copies or records of applications for concealed pistol licenses provided for in RCW 9.41.070, copies or records of applications for alien firearm licenses, copies or records of applications to purchase pistols provided for in RCW 9.41.090, and copies or records of pistol transfers provided for in RCW 9.41.110. The copies and records shall not be disclosed except as provided in RCW 42.56.240(4).
RCW 42.56.210
Certain personal and other records exempt.
No exemption may be construed to permit the nondisclosure of statistical information not descriptive of any readily identifiable person or persons
Still looking for penalty clause, but there may not be a specific penalty, lots of RCW dealing with the government are missing penalties. They seem to assume that a .gov employee would never ever never break a law.
Recordkeeping requirements.
The department of licensing may keep copies or records of applications for concealed pistol licenses provided for in RCW 9.41.070, copies or records of applications for alien firearm licenses, copies or records of applications to purchase pistols provided for in RCW 9.41.090, and copies or records of pistol transfers provided for in RCW 9.41.110. The copies and records shall not be disclosed except as provided in RCW 42.56.240(4).
RCW 42.56.210
Certain personal and other records exempt.
No exemption may be construed to permit the nondisclosure of statistical information not descriptive of any readily identifiable person or persons
Still looking for penalty clause, but there may not be a specific penalty, lots of RCW dealing with the government are missing penalties. They seem to assume that a .gov employee would never ever never break a law.
hermannr
Regular Member
One guy isn't married yet.
Munkey Butt
Regular Member
No surprise that the county with the lowest CPL percentage is the biggest advocate for stricter gun laws.:cuss:
Metalhead47
Regular Member
Er... not to pick nits here but shouldn't that second part be refereing to the Constitution of Washington State?