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peter nap · Nov 29, 2011

Grapeshot said:
Even the Lone Ranger traveled with his faithful companion - my phone still works, dag nab it.

Solo is what James Stephen Fossett, Francis Gary Powers, and John Denver did. :uhoh:

I appreciate it Grape but I worked that city for 13 years alone, and old habits are hard to break. To be honest....it was kinda fun:lol:.

Boy has that area changed though. No Biker bars anymore, no fights in the middle of the street. What hasn't changed is the drug traffic on the side streets but the hookers are uglier...and I think they might have actually been female

I walked around the new construction TD was talking about. That is NOT a nice place, never has been and a block in any direction is bear country.

I didn't have time to do it last night but the bums used to camp under the trees near 95 so no one could see them. You had to actually duck under the branches to root them out.
Imagine sending your kids to a place a hundred yards from that.

Grapeshot · Nov 29, 2011

peter nap said:
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I walked around the new construction TD was talking about. That is NOT a nice place, never has been and a block in any direction is bear country.

I didn't have time to do it last night but the bums used to camp under the trees near 95 so no one could see them. You had to actually duck under the branches to root them out.
Imagine sending your kids to a place a hundred yards from that.

But, but, but all of those places are off campus.

That's like a get out of jail free card for the VCU administration - it's not on their grass.
In Monroe Park, on the streets and sidewalks next to streets, including between point A (VCU bldg) and point B (VCU bldg) you are most often off campus.

peter nap · Nov 29, 2011

Grapeshot said:
But, but, but all of those places are off campus.

That's like a get out of jail free card for the VCU administration - it's not on their grass.
In Monroe Park, on the streets and sidewalks next to streets, including between point A (VCU bldg) and point B (VCU bldg) you are most often off campus.

That's true but after midnight, there were kids leaving VCU buildings, with books (Why they were there at midnight is anyone's guess) and crossing broad, then going into the fan.

The Panhandlers are a little more aggressive at night. One tapped on my window at a stoplight and sort of demanded a cigarette. I rolled down the window and he about had a heart attack when he saw the 1911, Taser and shotgun, on the front seat.:lol:

I pulled over in a parking space and gave him a cigarette and we had a nice chat about what was happening in the area.

Grapeshot · Nov 29, 2011

peter nap said:
...snip...

The Panhandlers are a little more aggressive at night. One tapped on my window at a stoplight and sort of demanded a cigarette. I rolled down the window and he about had a heart attack when he saw the 1911, Taser and shotgun, on the front seat.:lol:

Coke up and out my nose, thank you.:exclaim:

skidmark · Nov 29, 2011

Grapeshot said:
But, but, but all of those places are off campus.

That's like a get out of jail free card for the VCU administration - it's not on their grass.
In Monroe Park, on the streets and sidewalks next to streets, including between point A (VCU bldg) and point B (VCU bldg) you are most often off campus.

Sorry, but "campus" does not equate with "building" or "property" when discussing the "bounds" of an urban university.

For all practical purposes "campus" is defined by both VCU and RPD as that area where VCUPD has jurisdiction. Another definition is found in the fed Dept of Ed {hawk*spit} requirements for reporting campus crimes. For the purposes of discussion here, that second definition is the better one to use.

http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/20/1092.html#f

(6) (A) In this subsection: (i) The term “campus” means— (I) any building or property owned or controlled by an institution of higher education within the same reasonably contiguous geographic area of the institution and used by the institution in direct support of, or in a manner related to, the institution’s educational purposes, including residence halls; and
(II) property within the same reasonably contiguous geographic area of the institution that is owned by the institution but controlled by another person, is used by students, and supports institutional purposes (such as a food or other retail vendor).

(ii) The term “noncampus building or property” means— (I) any building or property owned or controlled by a student organization recognized by the institution; and
(II) any building or property (other than a branch campus) owned or controlled by an institution of higher education that is used in direct support of, or in relation to, the institution’s educational purposes, is used by students, and is not within the same reasonably contiguous geographic area of the institution.

(iii) The term “public property” means all public property that is within the same reasonably contiguous geographic area of the institution, such as a sidewalk, a street, other thoroughfare, or parking facility, and is adjacent to a facility owned or controlled by the institution if the facility is used by the institution in direct support of, or in a manner related to the institution’s educational purposes.

(B) In cases where branch campuses of an institution of higher education, schools within an institution of higher education, or administrative divisions within an institution are not within a reasonably contiguous geographic area, such entities shall be considered separate campuses for purposes of the reporting requirements of this section.

stay safe.

mobeewan · Nov 30, 2011

peter nap said:
I was videoing with no lights. They just scatter, always have and always will I guess.
I didn't see a lot of students but the ones I did see weren't looking too healthy:lol:.

Great protection in that area. I saw 2 cops in an hour and a half. Both on Broad Street.

My comment was meant in jest after I saw mk4's comment about them scattering like roaches.

Grapeshot · Nov 30, 2011

mobeewan said:
My comment was meant in jest after I saw mk4's comment about them scattering like roaches.

Peter's cameras, even w/o lighting, illuminate many a dark corner - even more so when he is in "stealth mode"

.. :lol:

Repeater · Nov 30, 2011

More danger

Police release descriptions of suspects in VCU robbery

Richmond police are asking for the public's help in identifying two men involved in the robbery of two Virginia Commonwealth University students at gunpoint near the school's main academic campus.

There were no injuries in the robbery, which occurred at 2:45 a.m. on Nov. 18 as the students were walking in the 400 block of Gilmer Street, just north of VCU's Monroe Park campus. Police said the robbers, who were accompanied by two lookouts, took iPhones, credit cards and cash.

Grapeshot · Nov 30, 2011

Repeater said:
Police release descriptions of suspects in VCU robbery

Richmond police are asking for the public's help in identifying two men involved in the robbery of two Virginia Commonwealth University students at gunpoint near the school's main academic campus.

wiggle. wiggle "near the school's main academic campus." wiggle, wiggle, squirm.

peter nap · Nov 30, 2011

Grapeshot said:
wiggle. wiggle "near the school's main academic campus." wiggle, wiggle, squirm.

I don't understand why they didn't throw a book at them?:uhoh:

Speaking of books, I see another of their brave boys in blue is charged with kiddie porn. Seems to be a right popular hobby with the VCUPD.

Repeater · Nov 30, 2011

peter nap said:
I don't understand why they didn't throw a book at them?:uhoh:

Speaking of books, I see another of their brave boys in blue is charged with kiddie porn. Seems to be a right popular hobby with the VCUPD.

No worries. Such alleged affairs happened off-campus:

"While the alleged crimes happened away from our campuses, they are deeply disturbing and raise concerns among a university community dedicated to serving others with trust and integrity," VCU President Michael Rao wrote in an email Monday.

Trust and integrity! Oh my!! But wait, there's more:

"First and foremost, the protection of our students, our faculty and staff, and our greater community is our highest priority."

"While no one can guarantee safety, we can create a climate in which our expectations are high and clearly communicated, and where people do not fear reprisal but willingly report suspicious or criminal behavior to maintain a safe working environment."

"With respect to the justice system and due process afforded to everyone, we must balance those rights with the safety and security of our students, faculty, staff and visitors. In that regard, employees facing criminal charges such as these may be suspended or terminated."

Rao seems to prefer his words over weapons for safety and security. Don't you all feel better now?

Grapeshot · Nov 30, 2011

Repeater said:
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Rao seems to prefer his words over weapons for safety and security. Don't you all feel better now?

In the interest of good conduct and effective dialog, I will refrain from giving voice to some of my feelings and thoughts as they originally occurred.

Guess who I deem is responsible for these problems? Where does the buck stop?

scouser · Dec 1, 2011

peter nap said:
I don't understand why they didn't throw a book at them?:uhoh:

Speaking of books, I see another of their brave boys in blue is charged with kiddie porn. Seems to be a right popular hobby with the VCUPD.

Makes me wonder if it will be safe to take Logan to the rally if some of the cops there are allegedly into kids

BillHoo · Dec 1, 2011

mk4 said:
maybe we should form up a group, say, company or even battalion strength, and all go on a nice afternoon walk together... ;-)

Reminds me of when I was going to Jamaica on vacation. My parents moved to the states when I was 2. This would be my first time back since I was born there and lived as a toddler. My mother convinced my dad to move to the states after a gunfight in the street sent a stray bullet through my crib.

I told my fathaer that while I was there for vacation, I would visit my grandfather's grave in Kingston, known for the Rasta drug cartels armed with AKs.

He told me "Are you crazy! You need to bring the whole Jamaican Army to go there!" I scoffed at him thnking he was just exaggerating.

On the way there, I stopped at my cousins resort in Montego Bay - he's Canadian, but he went back to Jamaica to do business. He asked me what brings me to Jamaica. I told him I was just on vacation and I wanted to go into Kingston and visit my grandfather's grave.

He said, "Are you crazy! You need to bring the whole Jamaican Army to go there!"

Apparently yes. Every May, the government closes down the streets and brings in the Army to allow people to enter the area where the cemetary is for cleanup and putting flowers on graves.

Later, I find that Jamaica is the third most corrupt nation in the world. Which explains why my cousin runs the resorts from an office that looks like a prison cell. He packs when he goes to work in the morning and locks himself behind iron bars. In the office is a walk in vault where he keeps all the liquor and money and several shotguns and some wicked cattle prods! Someday I'll tell the story of what he and his staff did to a cat burglar they had caught breaking into guest rooms!

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