decklin
Regular Member
So today I had yet another encounter with the management at the Auburn Sam's Club.
You can read about my previous encounter here:
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?121489-Auburn-Sam-s-Club-Police-Encounter
So I head in today and the greeter tells me, "Sir, just to let you know we don't allow firearms in here."
I tell him he needs to get the store manager.
A woman walks up and tells me she is the MOD.
I explained how I had canceled my membership at Costco and was assured that my Rights would be respected at Sam's Club. I told her about the incident in April and how Danny, the Store Manager, said I was fine.
She told me she would try to call Danny and find out what to do. After about 5 minutes she told me she couldn't reach Danny so she called a manager at another store. Apparently his name is Terry.
Woman, "Terry said that you have to carry concealed and you must have a permit. That's the law."
Me, "No. This is an open carry state and no permit is required. You only need a permit to conceal."
Now she's eyeing my firearm, "You mean you don't have a permit for that?" She sounds concerned.:banghead:
Me, "Listen to what I'm saying. You don't need a permit to open carry. I never said I don't have a permit."
At this point she tells me I'm fine today but she'll just have to see what Danny says when he calls back.
I head inside and collect the items I need, pay, and head for the door. On the way past the service desk I ask her if Danny had called back and she tells me no.
Just as I'm about to leave the parking lot the receipt checker comes out to my truck to let me know that Danny just called.
So I head back in.
The woman tells me that Danny says no firearms are allowed in the store at all.
I immediately told her to cancel my membership and I returned everything I bought today. I made sure to get back my dues for the year as well. I told her I expect to get all my dues from the last 4 years back too.
She said I needed to talk to Danny about that. I told her I wanted to cancel my credit card as well. She said I'd have to call mastercard for that.
At this point I went to Fred Meyer and got my groceries.
Upon arriving at home I called Sam's Club corporate and spoke with a woman named Laquelle.
I explained what happened and said I expect to get all my membership dues back and all my money spent at Sam's Club and it's gas station since April 18th. (the date of the previous encounter.)
She was very polite and sympathetic. She verified that the company policy had actually been updated in July and specifically says stores will NOT prohibit the open or concealed carry of legally carried handguns.
Laquelle was very polite and sympathetic. She took detailed notes and asked several questions. She said she would be calling the club directly to find out Danny's last name and phone number. She also said she would find out which store Terry works for. She collected my contact info and let me know that once she got the necessary info she would file the report with corporate so we could get the situation resolved. She said managers are not allowed to ignore policy and cannot interpret the law. She also said this sounds like the manager may have a personal vendetta against firearms.
So that's everything so far. I will post updates as I get them.
You can read about my previous encounter here:
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?121489-Auburn-Sam-s-Club-Police-Encounter
So I head in today and the greeter tells me, "Sir, just to let you know we don't allow firearms in here."
I tell him he needs to get the store manager.
A woman walks up and tells me she is the MOD.
I explained how I had canceled my membership at Costco and was assured that my Rights would be respected at Sam's Club. I told her about the incident in April and how Danny, the Store Manager, said I was fine.
She told me she would try to call Danny and find out what to do. After about 5 minutes she told me she couldn't reach Danny so she called a manager at another store. Apparently his name is Terry.
Woman, "Terry said that you have to carry concealed and you must have a permit. That's the law."
Me, "No. This is an open carry state and no permit is required. You only need a permit to conceal."
Now she's eyeing my firearm, "You mean you don't have a permit for that?" She sounds concerned.:banghead:
Me, "Listen to what I'm saying. You don't need a permit to open carry. I never said I don't have a permit."
At this point she tells me I'm fine today but she'll just have to see what Danny says when he calls back.
I head inside and collect the items I need, pay, and head for the door. On the way past the service desk I ask her if Danny had called back and she tells me no.
Just as I'm about to leave the parking lot the receipt checker comes out to my truck to let me know that Danny just called.
So I head back in.
The woman tells me that Danny says no firearms are allowed in the store at all.
I immediately told her to cancel my membership and I returned everything I bought today. I made sure to get back my dues for the year as well. I told her I expect to get all my dues from the last 4 years back too.
She said I needed to talk to Danny about that. I told her I wanted to cancel my credit card as well. She said I'd have to call mastercard for that.
At this point I went to Fred Meyer and got my groceries.
Upon arriving at home I called Sam's Club corporate and spoke with a woman named Laquelle.
I explained what happened and said I expect to get all my membership dues back and all my money spent at Sam's Club and it's gas station since April 18th. (the date of the previous encounter.)
She was very polite and sympathetic. She verified that the company policy had actually been updated in July and specifically says stores will NOT prohibit the open or concealed carry of legally carried handguns.
Laquelle was very polite and sympathetic. She took detailed notes and asked several questions. She said she would be calling the club directly to find out Danny's last name and phone number. She also said she would find out which store Terry works for. She collected my contact info and let me know that once she got the necessary info she would file the report with corporate so we could get the situation resolved. She said managers are not allowed to ignore policy and cannot interpret the law. She also said this sounds like the manager may have a personal vendetta against firearms.
So that's everything so far. I will post updates as I get them.
