The class was the required 8 hrs, I did catch some good tips on general gun related topics but really not much law related stuff I didn't already know. The instructor and I got into it a bit over open carry, just because he has such large amount of experience I wasn't comfortable standing ground on everything but I did tell him absolutely that he was incorrect about open carry being illegal in all of Missouri as I knew of many cities where it was perfectly legal.
You could tell he had a bit of an abrasive opinion of open carry as he then talked about how all it takes is one guy to go before a judge and we could lose CCW and open carry in the whole state, seemed kind of like a doom scenario to me. He also went into a few stories he knew of where someone had been sued civilly for a person being scared of the gun and hurting themselves trying to get away.
If the regulars don't mind helping me with a few items I'm unsure of I'd really appreciate it.
1. Instructor tells the class open carry is illegal statewide (I tell him no dice, it's legal except as municipalities restrict it)
2. Instructor tells the class and me that open carry with a CCW is "flourishing" / "brandishing" and will get your CCW taken away (this one I have no idea about, if you have a CCW and your coat comes open he says you can lose your CCW)
3. Instructor is telling class Independence police are taking any gun they come across, legal or otherwise, and confiscating it to run "ballistics" tests on the gun to determine if it's ever been used in a crime. This is a ploy St. Louis is using to keep guns for as long as possible and hassle gun owners. (Has anyone else heard of or experienced this?)
4. Has anyone heard of someone being sued for "scaring" someone else just by standing there with a gun on their hip? Seems insane but nothing surprises me anymore in this litigious society...
5. One last question just for me since I'm traveling to Kansas every day for work, do I still have to lock up the gun and ammunition separately even if I have my CCW?
You could tell he had a bit of an abrasive opinion of open carry as he then talked about how all it takes is one guy to go before a judge and we could lose CCW and open carry in the whole state, seemed kind of like a doom scenario to me. He also went into a few stories he knew of where someone had been sued civilly for a person being scared of the gun and hurting themselves trying to get away.
If the regulars don't mind helping me with a few items I'm unsure of I'd really appreciate it.
1. Instructor tells the class open carry is illegal statewide (I tell him no dice, it's legal except as municipalities restrict it)
2. Instructor tells the class and me that open carry with a CCW is "flourishing" / "brandishing" and will get your CCW taken away (this one I have no idea about, if you have a CCW and your coat comes open he says you can lose your CCW)
3. Instructor is telling class Independence police are taking any gun they come across, legal or otherwise, and confiscating it to run "ballistics" tests on the gun to determine if it's ever been used in a crime. This is a ploy St. Louis is using to keep guns for as long as possible and hassle gun owners. (Has anyone else heard of or experienced this?)
4. Has anyone heard of someone being sued for "scaring" someone else just by standing there with a gun on their hip? Seems insane but nothing surprises me anymore in this litigious society...
5. One last question just for me since I'm traveling to Kansas every day for work, do I still have to lock up the gun and ammunition separately even if I have my CCW?