Rich B called it and they did it. Congrats to the Starbucks appreciation fools

Well Rich you called it... If you try to politicize Starbucks they are going to change their minds. Here we are again where gun enthusiasts are their own worst enemies. Thanks to Starbucks appreciation day they have released an internal memo stating that they have decided that weapons are no longer welcomed in their stores. While they also tell their employees not to enforce this policy, they do plan to make it known through the media that weapons are no longer welcomed due to activist groups on both sides trying to politicize the company.

way to go guys.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/18/us-usa-starbucks-guns-idUSBRE98H04N20130918

Very unfortunate. What a sad loss for everyone.

We worked so hard to make open carry 'normalized' and to foster good will with business owners. This has set us back years.

Our press release about Starbucks Appreciation day:

http://ctcarry.com/News/Release/15cc5e47-894e-4df8-8317-241c4d8c2a92

They should probably have consulted with people who know/understand firearms laws. This is a strange policy statement.

Guns are no longer welcome. They put it out in an internal memo that leaks to the media. They tell their employees not to enforce it.

Of course, state laws allow property owners to ban guns and police can enforce under trespass statutes...so the reality is that a person carrying a gun is subject to arrest...but there's no posted policy...except on the interwebs.

With such badly thought out policy, everybody loses.

Stupid of people to have demonstrations after a company specifically asks to be left out.

CT Barfly said:

They should probably have consulted with people who know/understand firearms laws. This is a strange policy statement.

Guns are no longer welcome. They put it out in an internal memo that leaks to the media. They tell their employees not to enforce it.

Of course, state laws allow property owners to ban guns and police can enforce under trespass statutes...so the reality is that a person carrying a gun is subject to arrest...but there's no posted policy...except on the interwebs.

With such badly thought out policy, everybody loses.

Stupid of people to have demonstrations after a company specifically asks to be left out.

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It is a loss only for liberty and those who engage in it. This was the smartest play Starbucks could have made assuming their desire to be left out.

Assuming ignorance is silly and devoid of reason.

Shawn Mitola said:

Well Rich you called it... If you try to politicize Starbucks they are going to change their minds. Here we are again where gun enthusiasts are their own worst enemies. Thanks to Starbucks appreciation day they have released an internal memo stating that they have decided that weapons are no longer welcomed in their stores. While they also tell their employees not to enforce this policy, they do plan to make it known through the media that weapons are no longer welcomed due to activist groups on both sides trying to politicize the company.

way to go guys.....

http://www.reuters.com/article/2013/09/18/us-usa-starbucks-guns-idUSBRE98H04N20130918

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Well, companies are involved in politics every day. Why should we not know their political viewpoints?

If you are pro-life, would you want to know which businesses are anti-life?

Same for citizens RKBA ... why give money to businesses like Starbucks? They finally tossed their hat and chosen a side - the side of the antis.

Now, many businesses are anti-gun/citizen. Look at all the companies that still kow-tow to state PDs in this state after the passage of PA13-3. They still sponsor, give money, etc to state governments that now want to disarm us and make us their slaves. And these are gun companies and gun industry companies. They have also chosen IMO .. they say they are pro-2nd amendment but turn around and reward the groups who are trying to take our guns away.

Make RKBA a civil rights issue and it would not matter if companies don't like guns ... it would not matter. All would allow OC because the law will force them to.

Regarding Starbucks? Its one company that supplies a nonessential product that I never bought to begin with (from them). Go buy a coffee pot with a timer ... save yourself some cash.

Forget about Starbucks ... they don't exist anymore

Rich B said:

Very unfortunate. What a sad loss for everyone.

We worked so hard to make open carry 'normalized' and to foster good will with business owners. This has set us back years.

Our press release about Starbucks Appreciation day:

http://ctcarry.com/News/Release/15cc5e47-894e-4df8-8317-241c4d8c2a92

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I don't think it set back anything ... its not like a guy shot-up a Starbucks (and even if done now it would not matter IMO).

Business owners may look to see how the affects Starbucks pocketbook but in reality we'll never know unless it goes out of business. If every gun owner refused to step inside one again it would indeed go out of business.

So everyday should be Starbucks non-appreciation day to every gun owner. Then when they close their doors people will know why. Sorry Starbucks, you are still a point of interest in RKBA politics.