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How to avoid drones? Ask dudes in middle east - recommended reading?

zack991

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You support Imperialistic endeavors in Afghanistan, Iraq, Pakistan, with the use of drones...practice, for state-side.

If you are referring to me, I have NEVER supported or agreed to their illegal use. So if you dont mind quit putting words in my mouth. My last comment is in reference for Americans to read the tips and understand them since the US Government has decided to use them on US citizens.
 

Beretta92FSLady

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If you are referring to me, I have NEVER supported or agreed to their illegal use. So if you dont mind quit putting words in my mouth. My last comment is in reference for Americans to read the tips and understand them since the US Government has decided to use them on US citizens.

Have you ever:

1) Voted
2) Paid Taxes

I bet you have done both! You supported it.
 

zack991

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Have you ever:

1) Voted
2) Paid Taxes

I bet you have done both! You supported it.

Umm No, that complete bullshi, quit trolling for a damn fight like always. Just because a person votes does not make them automatically for or against a president using drones or any of their policy's. I never voted for or was a supporter of Gore, Bush, McCain, Kerry, Romney, Obama for that matter. I have never agreed with any of the illegal wars, or the illegal use of the drones. There are plenty of people who voted for Obama in 2008, by your logic that means they supported the continuation of Afghanistan or his illegal side wars he was starting just because they voted for him. Also being force to pay income tax at the threat of a barrel of gun does not mean we supported those funds going to illegal wars and illegal uses. Go troll another forum.
 
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Beretta92FSLady

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Umm No, that complete bullshi, quit trolling for a damn fight like always. Just because a person votes does not make them automatically for or against a president using drones or any of their policy's. I never voted for or was a supporter of Gore, Bush, McCain, Kerry, Romney, Obama for that matter. I have never agreed with any of the illegal wars, or the illegal use of the drones. There are plenty of people who voted for Obama in 2008, by your logic that means they supported the continuation of Afghanistan or his illegal side wars he was starting just because they voted for him. Also being force to pay income tax at the threat of a barrel of gun does not mean we supported those funds going to illegal wars and illegal uses. Go troll another forum.

You have voted, though? You have paid taxes?--of all sorts. Any vote you cast, you are agreeing to the inherent consolidation of your Rights, and Liberty, into the collective.

All I'm stating is that when you vote, when you pay your taxes--or any taxes--you are affirming the legitimacy of the System, and contributing your moneys to whatever end the System sees fit to utilize those moneys.

There's no getting out of it, you support the System that 'oppresses' you, and spends moneys you contributed--willfully--to illegal wars, and items, such as: drones.

You're living the American Dream!
 
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Beretta92FSLady

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You did not answer the question. You need to clarify your questions.

Which taxes are you claiming that I have paid?

I'm stated that, if you live in America, work, or purchase things, you pay taxes.

Also, I was not stating "you," as in, you. I was making a statement that if: You pay taxes....
 
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Beretta92FSLady

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Ah so you, are the one who supports such vile and illegal actions. Okay I understand now, you project your feelings onto others.

I never stated the Governments actions are vile and illegal.

I didn't just state I, I am stated ALL individuals.

You don't drive a car that runs off gasoline? You don't purchase taxed goods? You don't pay taxes?--if No, then you don't work; or you're going to have the IRS knocking on your door, eventually.

We, collectively, support Imperial actions perpetrated by the State.
 

Freedom1Man

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I never stated the Governments actions are vile and illegal.

I didn't just state I, I am stated ALL individuals.

You don't drive a car that runs off gasoline? You don't purchase taxed goods? You don't pay taxes?--if No, then you don't work; or you're going to have the IRS knocking on your door, eventually.

We, collectively, support Imperial actions perpetrated by the State.

Why should I fear the IRS? It's legal to kill IRS agents in Washington State when they try and take your property.

Oh I know, you fear them because you want socialism. There is nothing wrong with having a car that is fueled by coke.
 

Aknazer

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We should all read that paper and then use it against our own government's agents who wish to harm our rights with these drone attacks.

Except that several of those either extremely generic, don't understand even the most basic of how things like EO or IR sensors work, and/or flat out wrong. For example, hiding in trees/caves/forests. That's kinda obvious when trying to hide and needing to be told that is just...yea I don't have words for it (not to mention that it can be applied to any situation where you're trying to hide. Kinda like how the LAPD shooter managed to evade even people on the ground for so long). Or things in regards to EO/IR sensors. Mirrors are going to reflect the sun up into the air and draw attention to one's position (rescue mirrors, hello?) and putting rugs and stuff above the car to hide the heat signature is still going to look like you're trying to hide something (just google "IR drone pictures" and tell me what you think such a "disguised" vehicle is going to look like).

And then I'd like to see you actually try employing some of those "tactics" in the US. Doing such things is going to draw MORE attention to you. I'm sure there are things that people can do to try and defeat such monitoring, but that paper is either the most basic of anti-surveillance measures, or lacks the most basic of understanding of systems.
 
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