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South of the border

Firearms Iinstuctor

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Court won't reconsider Illinois concealed carry ruling



We won't have to afraid of crossing the southern border real soon


A federal appeals court won't reconsider an earlier ruling that Illinois' concealed carry ban is unconstitutional.

A three-judge panel of the 7th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals struck down Illinois' ban in December and gave lawmakers until June 8 to legalize the concealed carry of firearms.

Attorney General Lisa Madigan asked for all 10 judges to review the decision, saying it conflicted with decisions by other federal appellate courts and goes beyond what the U.S. Supreme Court has held.

Illinois is the only state in the nation that still has a ban in place.


http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/home/ticke...192515271.html
 

pkbites

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We won't have to afraid of crossing the southern border real soon
http://www.wpsdlocal6.com/home/ticke...192515271.html


I don't share your optimism. I'm covered by federal law and even I get nervous when I carry down to the flatlands.

Theres already talk of making it like NYC. Legally on the books but many, many hoops to jump through. I'm afraid it will take several more court rulings and years of fighting before the FIBS get their act together.
 

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Hr218

As I do also carry under HR218 and don't worry at all when I go out of state, all 50 states have to honor it. I got mine working for the Federal Bureau of Prisons how did you get yours?

Cowboyridn


HR218 for me too but in the real anti gun states a I worry also.

This ruling should help with that also.
 

stevepk

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We have a very good bills in both the house and senate F(HB997 & SB1284). However the Dems have put in a shell bill that we are fighting very hard. It would look worse than Ca. or NY.

Keep us in your thoughts.

Steve
Cheesehead stuck in Il-noyed
 

Law abider

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As I do also carry under HR218 and don't worry at all when I go out of state, all 50 states have to honor it. I got mine working for the Federal Bureau of Prisons how did you get yours?

Cowboyridn

You both must have been federal employees/police officers etc... to get that benefit. I don't suppose I can get one.
 

Firearms Iinstuctor

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You both must have been federal employees/police officers etc... to get that benefit. I don't suppose I can get one.

Fed,State,County ,local,leo who have retired honorably with at least 10 years of service and shoot a qualifying course of fire once a year.

just look up HR218 and one can find all the info you want.
 

x_il_towman

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Here's the latest..

Hey all.. Haven't logged in for a while. Seen the thread & wanted to update it.
Here's the latest from today..


http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/fulltext.asp?DocName=09800HB1155ham027&GA=98&SessionId=85&DocTypeId=HB&LegID=71607&DocNum=1155&GAID=12&Session=

Interesting one that got in:
Section 250-20. Issuance of licenses to carry a concealed firearm.

(h) Any Illinois resident who has a license or permit to
carry a handgun issued by another state shall be able to carry
a handgun in accordance with this Act using that license for
365 days following the effective date of this Act.

Training requirements:

Section 250-85. Applicant training.
(a) Applicants shall provide proof of completion of at
least one of the following courses:
(1) National Rifle Association Basic Personal
Protection In The Home Course.
(2) National Rifle Association Basics of Personal
Protection Outside The Home Course.
(3) National Rifle Association Basic Pistol Shooting
Course.
(4) Any other firearms training course of at least 6
hours that covers the following:
(A) handgun safety in the classroom, at home, on
the firing range, and while carrying the firearm;
(B) the basic principles of marksmanship;
(C) care and cleaning of handguns;
(D) laws relating to the justifiable use of force.
(b) Applicants shall provide proof of certification by a
certified instructor that the applicant passed a live fire
exercise with a handgun consisting of:
(1) a minimum of 30 rounds; and
(2) 10 rounds from a distance of 5 yards, 10 rounds
from a distance of 7 yards, and 10 rounds from a distance
of 10 yards at a B-27 silhouette or equivalent target as
approved by the Department.
(b-5) Students may provide their own safe, functional
handgun. The qualification shall be performed with
factory-loaded ammunition.
(b-6) Grades of "passing" shall not be given on range work

to an applicant who:
(1) does not follow the orders of the certified
firearms instructor;
(2) in the judgment of the certified firearms
instructor, handles a firearm in a manner that poses a
danger to the applicant or to others; or
(3) during the testing portion of the range work fails
to hit the silhouette portion of the target with 70% of the
30 rounds fired.
(c) The classroom portion of the course may, at the
qualified firearms instructor's discretion, be divided into
segments of not less than 2 hours each.
(d) Instructors shall maintain all records for students'
performance for not less than 5 years.
(e) Certified firearms instructors shall:
(1) allow monitoring of their classes by officials of
any certifying agency;
(2) make all course records available upon demand to
authorized personnel of the Department; and
(3) not divulge course records except as authorized by
the certifying agency.
(f) Fees for applicant training courses shall be set by the
instructor.
(g) An applicant training course shall not have more than
40 students in the classroom portion nor more than 5 students
per range officer engaged in range firing.

(h) Persons with the following training or certifications
are exempt from the requirements of subsection (a) of this
Section:
(1) An National Rifle Association certified
instructor.
(2) An individual who has qualified to carry a firearm
as a retired law enforcement officer.
(3) Any active, retired, or honorably discharged
member of the armed forces.
(4) An individual certified as a law enforcement
instructor by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training
Standards Board or other equivalent agency.

Section 250-90. Firearms instructors training.
(a) Not later than 30 days after the effective date of this
Act, the Department shall establish a registry of instructors
who are eligible to teach courses or sign off on range
qualifications, or both, to meet the requirements of Section
250-85 of this Act.
(b) Instructors who are eligible to teach courses and
certify range qualifications shall have one of the following
valid firearms instructor certifications:
(1) National Rifle Association Personal Protection
Instructor;
(2) National Rifle Association Basic Pistol
Instructor;

(3) National Rifle Association Law Enforcement Firearm
Instructor with a certification for handguns;
(4) Certification from a firearms instructor's course
offered by a State or federal governmental agency; or
(5) A similar firearms instructor qualifying course
approved by the Illinois Law Enforcement Training
Standards Board.
(c) Instructors who are eligible to teach courses and
certify range qualifications shall be at least 21 years of age
and possess at least a high school diploma or GED certificate.
(d) An applicant may have his or her instructor
qualification revoked if the applicant:
(1) does not meet the requirements of this Act to
possess a concealed firearms permit;
(2) provides false or misleading information to the
Board; or
(3) has had a prior instructor qualification revoked by
the Board or other certifying organization.
 
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