The Big Guy
Regular Member
Has anyone in WA been booted from a Winco store for OC?
See my thread under Nevada.
TBG
See my thread under Nevada.
TBG
Has anyone in WA been booted from a Winco store for OC?
See my thread under Nevada.
TBG
Can I be dumb???? Who/what is "Winco"?
[SUB]I had this conversation awhile back...
You have to read from the bottom up....
Yes, we abide by all laws of the state the store resides in.
We are working on a statement, as of now, I don't have one to give.
Cathy D.
WinCo Foods
http://www.wincofoods.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: MB [mailto:[SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:52 PM
To: recept91
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
Cathy, You say that you abide by all laws of the store you reside in.
Did you possibly mean that you abide by all state laws of the state that the store resides in? Is there a policy posted on your website or a copy of it that I can get. Store policies are updated on friendorfoe.us, and some other websites that support where we discuss our 2nd Amendment as written in our US Constitution. There are many Americans who will only support stores that support Americans. There are many websites, NRA.org, Opencarry.org, USConcealedcarry.com, the Washington arms, forum.gundigestmagazine.com, Handgunlaw.us, keepandbeararms.com, pinkpistols.org/antigun.html, nwcdl.org, oathkeepers.org/oath, seattleguns.net, thehighroad.us, youcancarry.com, and armedcitizensnetwork.org to name a few, where it is discussed who to patronize and who not to. friendorfoe.us had Winco in Federal Way, was blacklisted because a manager told someone who was openly carrying to cover up and he did not have his CPL on him, so when he refused he was asked to leave, you may have been removed from the anti business list for now. A copy of Winco's policy would really be helpful. Thank you Cathy.
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-----Original Message-----
From: recept91 [mailto:recept91@wincofoods.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:35 AM
To: MB
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
No, we abide by all laws of the store we reside in.
Cathy D.
WinCo Foods
http://www.wincofoods.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: MB [mailto:[SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:27 AM
To: recept91
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
Washington State is an Open Carry state RCW 9.41.270. There is no Id or CPL required. It is against the law to carry a firearm concealed without a Concealed Pistol License. If I am openly carrying in Winco Foods and do not have my CPL, and one of your management team ask's me to cover my weapon, they are asking me to commit a crime. Is it common policy at Winco Foods, to ask people to break the law?
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-----Original Message-----
From: recept91 [mailto:recept91@wincofoods.com]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:18 AM
To: MB
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
I think you misunderstood what I said, I said we would prefer you to leave the gun in the car. I did not, in any way, say you are required to, we abide by Washington state laws. If you wear your gun inside and it makes our other customers uncomfortable, our management team may ask you to cover the weapon. We are hoping that you will work with our management team if this occurs and cover the weapon. We are people who want to make all our customers comfortable when shopping.
Cathy D.
WinCo Foods
http://www.wincofoods.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: MB [mailto:[SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:29 PM
To: recept91
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
If I am asked to leave my firearm in my car before entering the store, what will Winco Foods do to ensure my family and my safety while shopping in your store. Will you have an armed security guard escorting us through your store to ensure and gauranty our safety? Wal-Mart abides by Washington state law, and by no means will forsake someone's ability to carry and protect themselves for someone else's insecure feelings. I would rather shop at Winco Foods but I will not unprotect myself and my family to save
$10.00 on groceries. Wal-Mart believes in the United States Constitution and believes in the 2nd Amendment. They follow whatever state law is. If I am asked to do unarm myself or leave Winco while shopping there, I will be sure to pass this on to as many of the other 200,000+ CPL holders in Washington state as well. I am sure some will be happy to oblige.
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-----Original Message-----
From: recept91 [mailto:recept91@wincofoods.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:13 PM
To: [SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
[SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com,
Thank you for using our new online feedback page.
"CPL", concealed pistol license? WinCo resides in Washington and other states which have open carry laws. We respect your right to carry.
However, we service many people in our stores and some do not feel comfortable shopping with a person who has a visible weapon and in that case we may ask you to cover it or leave it in the car before you enter the store. We respect your rights but we also hope you will work with us when asked. WinCo stores are private property.
We have a responsibility to you to allow you to carry, but we also have a responsibility to others who shop in our stores and do not feel comfortable. We hope you will appreciate our side of the process and be willing to work with us if you shop in our stores.
Cathy D.
WinCo Foods
http://www.wincofoods.com
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-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXXXXXXX@aol.com [mailto:XXXXXXXXXX@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
Store: Washington
Subject: question
Message: I can not find your store policy on firearms in your stores. I am a Washington CPL holder. I am a law abiding citizen that carrries a firearm for personal protection, as per Washington state law. I am looking for Winco Foods policy on firearms to see if they follow state law, and support Americas Constition and the 2nd Amendment, and Washington State pre-emption RCW 9.41.270.
Satisfaction (1 = poor, 10 = excellent): 10
Email: [SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com
END: Send
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[SUB]I had this conversation awhile back...
You have to read from the bottom up....
Yes, we abide by all laws of the state the store resides in.
We are working on a statement, as of now, I don't have one to give.
Cathy D.
WinCo Foods
http://www.wincofoods.com
[SUB]======================================================================================[/SUB]
-----Original Message-----
From: MB [mailto:[SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 5:52 PM
To: recept91
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
Cathy, You say that you abide by all laws of the store you reside in.
Did you possibly mean that you abide by all state laws of the state that the store resides in? Is there a policy posted on your website or a copy of it that I can get. Store policies are updated on friendorfoe.us, and some other websites that support where we discuss our 2nd Amendment as written in our US Constitution. There are many Americans who will only support stores that support Americans. There are many websites, NRA.org, Opencarry.org, USConcealedcarry.com, the Washington arms, forum.gundigestmagazine.com, Handgunlaw.us, keepandbeararms.com, pinkpistols.org/antigun.html, nwcdl.org, oathkeepers.org/oath, seattleguns.net, thehighroad.us, youcancarry.com, and armedcitizensnetwork.org to name a few, where it is discussed who to patronize and who not to. friendorfoe.us had Winco in Federal Way, was blacklisted because a manager told someone who was openly carrying to cover up and he did not have his CPL on him, so when he refused he was asked to leave, you may have been removed from the anti business list for now. A copy of Winco's policy would really be helpful. Thank you Cathy.
[SUB]======================================================================================[/SUB]
-----Original Message-----
From: recept91 [mailto:recept91@wincofoods.com]
Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 9:35 AM
To: MB
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
No, we abide by all laws of the store we reside in.
Cathy D.
WinCo Foods
http://www.wincofoods.com
[SUB]======================================================================================[/SUB]
-----Original Message-----
From: MB [mailto:[SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com]
Sent: Saturday, November 06, 2010 12:27 AM
To: recept91
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
Washington State is an Open Carry state RCW 9.41.270. There is no Id or CPL required. It is against the law to carry a firearm concealed without a Concealed Pistol License. If I am openly carrying in Winco Foods and do not have my CPL, and one of your management team ask's me to cover my weapon, they are asking me to commit a crime. Is it common policy at Winco Foods, to ask people to break the law?
[SUB]======================================================================================[/SUB]
-----Original Message-----
From: recept91 [mailto:recept91@wincofoods.com]
Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 8:18 AM
To: MB
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
I think you misunderstood what I said, I said we would prefer you to leave the gun in the car. I did not, in any way, say you are required to, we abide by Washington state laws. If you wear your gun inside and it makes our other customers uncomfortable, our management team may ask you to cover the weapon. We are hoping that you will work with our management team if this occurs and cover the weapon. We are people who want to make all our customers comfortable when shopping.
Cathy D.
WinCo Foods
http://www.wincofoods.com
[SUB]======================================================================================[/SUB]
-----Original Message-----
From: MB [mailto:[SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com]
Sent: Thursday, November 04, 2010 5:29 PM
To: recept91
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
If I am asked to leave my firearm in my car before entering the store, what will Winco Foods do to ensure my family and my safety while shopping in your store. Will you have an armed security guard escorting us through your store to ensure and gauranty our safety? Wal-Mart abides by Washington state law, and by no means will forsake someone's ability to carry and protect themselves for someone else's insecure feelings. I would rather shop at Winco Foods but I will not unprotect myself and my family to save
$10.00 on groceries. Wal-Mart believes in the United States Constitution and believes in the 2nd Amendment. They follow whatever state law is. If I am asked to do unarm myself or leave Winco while shopping there, I will be sure to pass this on to as many of the other 200,000+ CPL holders in Washington state as well. I am sure some will be happy to oblige.
[SUB]======================================================================================[/SUB]
-----Original Message-----
From: recept91 [mailto:recept91@wincofoods.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:13 PM
To: [SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com
Subject: RE: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
[SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com,
Thank you for using our new online feedback page.
"CPL", concealed pistol license? WinCo resides in Washington and other states which have open carry laws. We respect your right to carry.
However, we service many people in our stores and some do not feel comfortable shopping with a person who has a visible weapon and in that case we may ask you to cover it or leave it in the car before you enter the store. We respect your rights but we also hope you will work with us when asked. WinCo stores are private property.
We have a responsibility to you to allow you to carry, but we also have a responsibility to others who shop in our stores and do not feel comfortable. We hope you will appreciate our side of the process and be willing to work with us if you shop in our stores.
Cathy D.
WinCo Foods
http://www.wincofoods.com
======================================================================================
-----Original Message-----
From: XXXXXXXXXX@aol.com [mailto:XXXXXXXXXX@aol.com]
Sent: Wednesday, November 03, 2010 1:52 PM
Subject: WinCoFoods.com Online Feedback
Store: Washington
Subject: question
Message: I can not find your store policy on firearms in your stores. I am a Washington CPL holder. I am a law abiding citizen that carrries a firearm for personal protection, as per Washington state law. I am looking for Winco Foods policy on firearms to see if they follow state law, and support Americas Constition and the 2nd Amendment, and Washington State pre-emption RCW 9.41.270.
Satisfaction (1 = poor, 10 = excellent): 10
Email: [SUB]XXXXXXXXXX[/SUB]@aol.com
END: Send
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Message sent through http://www.wincofoods.com: The information contained in this electronic mail transmission (including any accompanying attachments) is intended solely for its authorized recipient(s), and may be confidential and/or legally privileged. If you are not an intended recipient, or responsible for delivering some or all of this transmission to an intended recipient, you have received this transmission in error and are hereby notified that you are strictly prohibited from reading, reviewing, copying, using, printing, disseminating, distributing, retransmitting, retaining, or disclosing any of the information contained in it. In that event we ask that you please delete the original and all copies of this transmission (including any attachments) without reading or saving in any manner.
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Damn! Just back them onto a corner why don’t you, badger and threaten, that’ll just sour them into unfavorable policy. Nice work, not!
I just received a phone call from Mike Read, Public Relations Representative of Winco foods. He let me know that they have had lots of contact about this issue and have come to the conclusion that we are welcome in their stores open carry. He told me that they really didn't like it but would not fight it. He said as a private property they have the right to prohibit firearms but that they would not.
TBG