SB 460 - Could this proposed statute be MISused against OC?

Provides that when a law-enforcement officer lawfully detains a person following a lawful stop, detention, or arrest of such person for a suspected criminal offense or traffic infraction or upon reasonable suspicion of criminal activity and, during the detention, based upon certain prescribed inquiries of the detainee and ICE, the officer forms a reasonable suspicion that the person is unlawfully present in the United States, the officer shall make a reasonable effort during the detention, when practicable, to determine whether the person is lawfully present, unless the determination would hinder or obstruct an investigation. The bill also sets out procedures to be followed by a judicial officer who would make a bail determination for such an arrestee.

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When a law-enforcement officer lawfully detains, but does not arrest, a person following a lawful stop or detention of such person for a suspected criminal offense or traffic infraction or upon reasonable suspicion of criminal activity, the officer shall inquire, during the detention, as to whether the person (i) was born in a country other than the United States, (ii) is a citizen of a country other than the United States, and (iii) is in the country lawfully, unless to do so would hinder or obstruct an investigation. If based upon the person's responses, the officer has reasonable suspicion to believe the person is or remains in the United States unlawfully, he shall, when practicable, make an Immigration Alien Query to the Law Enforcement Support Center of the United States Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) to verify the person's lawful presence in the United States.

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SouthernBoy said:

I don't like the idea of illegal aliens invading my country and lose no sleep over their quick deportation. But I also see your point and that can lead to things just as scary. There is an inexpensive and rather easy fix to a large part of the illegal invasion problem. But that is fuel for another thread.

No easy answers with what you have posted.

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jmelvin said:

This is essentially a duplicate discussion of the topic in this thread I believe: http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?98750-Your-papers-achtung

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Repeater said:

I realize now that the language is identical. Now I wonder if these bills were requested by the AG's office?

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scouser said:

An illegal shouldn't be carrying anyway. They certainly can't buy a firearm from a dealer in VA.

Some US Citizens have had their say here in this thread, how about an alien adding his viewpoint?

I was born in a country other than the US, I'm a citizen of another country than the US and I'm here legally with the right to live and work in this country. Getting here cost me a lot of time, involved a lot of paperwork and cost a sum of money that I could have put to good use doing something else. I pay taxes the same as you. Illegals haven't gone through that process. I personally have no sympathy for them.

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Thundar said:

Be very wary of anything requested by the cooch.

I oppose any and all efforts to coopt our peace officers by giving them any authority to enforce federal laws. Let the feds do it. Do not allow our peace officers to sully their hands with federal issues. Most LEO have a hard enough time understanding Commonwealth laws, don't make it even harder for them.

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