Why are school shooters often pro "gun control" socialists?

77zach · Dec 14, 2013

http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...school-shooter-was-pro-gun-control-socialist/

Add him to the Illinois shooter, the gabby giffords, and the Aurora shooter, and the navy yard shooter, off the top of my head

Projection I guess. I've talked to a few pro "gun control" people and they've cited "I wouldn't trust myself with a gun" as a valid reason for trampling rights.

Brace · Dec 14, 2013

Well they tend to be young which means they tend to have their parents opinions. Ergo, their parents are control freaks. Ergo, living in a house with a control freak makes you inclined to shoot people.

SFCRetired · Dec 14, 2013

Very simply this: Without some sort of provocation to keep the gun control mantra alive and well, it would soon die a natural death. But, by instigating these incidents the pro-gun-control socialists/progressives/darn communists keep the mantra alive, well, and always on the front burner albeit on a low simmer.

Each and every one of these people is well aware that unless and until they can disarm the citizenry, their plans for a tyrannical socialist dictatorship cannot be realized. Look at every nation where the ownership of firearms has been either severely restricted or completely curtailed and you will see politicians of the same stripe as the ones here behind it all.

Who? Me? Paranoid? Maybe, but that still doesn't mean they aren't out to get me!! :lol:

davidmcbeth · Dec 14, 2013

Those people do not collect guns to protect themselves (mainly for our own guberment) ...

onus · Dec 14, 2013

Have any of the major school shootings been done by a Christian ?

Brace · Dec 14, 2013

Probably all of them, depending on your inclination to the "no true scotsman". Just by way of statistics, not trying to say anything else.

Primus · Dec 14, 2013

Oh I see guys...... its not because he was bullied and snapped and **** people.... its clearly because of his political views.

Cmon.... is this a katsung thread?

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77zach · Dec 14, 2013

Primus said:
Oh I see guys...... its not because he was bullied and snapped and **** people.... its clearly because of his political views.

Cmon.... is this a katsung thread?

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Is that what I said? The bigger point is that their politics are almost always ignored by the media. If he was an NRA or GOA member they would be all over it. The Denver Post removed reference to his political views. There is a narrative in the media about "right wing extremists", "teabaggers" etc ad infinitum.

Primus · Dec 14, 2013

77zach said:
Is that what I said? The bigger point is that their politics are almost always ignored by the media. If he was an NRA or GOA member they would be all over it. The Denver Post removed reference to his political views. There is a narrative in the media about "right wing extremists", "teabaggers" etc ad infinitum.

He was white. The media isn't playing that up. Start a thread that its only white guys that do it. Or young males.

I'm pretty sure I know why they have that narrative and they don't need a school shooter to prove it to them.

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77zach · Dec 14, 2013

SFCRetired said:
Very simply this: Without some sort of provocation to keep the gun control mantra alive and well, it would soon die a natural death. But, by instigating these incidents the pro-gun-control socialists/progressives/darn communists keep the mantra alive, well, and always on the front burner albeit on a low simmer.

Each and every one of these people is well aware that unless and until they can disarm the citizenry, their plans for a tyrannical socialist dictatorship cannot be realized. Look at every nation where the ownership of firearms has been either severely restricted or completely curtailed and you will see politicians of the same stripe as the ones here behind it all.

Who? Me? Paranoid? Maybe, but that still doesn't mean they aren't out to get me!! :lol:

I hope you're right SFC, but I don't see it. In our atomized, effete, dumbed down, and ignorant society, about the only thing the right to bear arms is good for is making sure the government can't murder us door to door at will or put us in camps. I think we'll put up with anything short of that. I'm ready to go to war now ( at first through mass noncompliance), but then I'd just be a lone nut. To be sure, the tyranny is so hard core in the UK (they're always about 10-20 year ahead of us in the march towards 1984) it could very well be headed that way (mass murder, camps, etc)

Primus · Dec 14, 2013

77zach said:
I hope you're right SFC, but I don't see it. In our atomized, effete, dumbed down, and ignorant society, about the only thing the right to bear arms is good for is making sure the government can't murder us door to door at will or put us in camps. I think we'll put up with anything short of that. I'm ready to go to war now ( at first through mass noncompliance), but then I'd just be a lone nut. To be sure, the tyranny is so hard core in the UK (they're always about 10-20 year ahead of us in the march towards 1984) it could very well be headed that way (mass murder, camps, etc)

You nailed it 77... maybe this post is why the main stream media runs with the labels. There was a school shooting and your on here swearing the .gov is going to start mass murders and camps. To boot you say "your ready to go to war now". Good job keep feeding the libs good quotes.

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77zach · Dec 14, 2013

Primus said:
You nailed it 77... maybe this post is why the main stream media runs with the labels. There was a school shooting and your on here swearing the .gov is going to start mass murders and camps. To boot you say "your ready to go to war now". Good job keep feeding the libs good quotes.

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"At first, through mass noncompliance". It's called civil disobedience and it's as American as apple pie.

I'm suspicious that you're always wrong on purpose. I'm about done feeding the cop troll.

Primus · Dec 14, 2013

77zach said:
"At first, through mass noncompliance". It's called civil disobedience and it's as American as apple pie.

I'm suspicious that you're always wrong on purpose. I'm about done feeding the cop troll.

77 I acknowledge you said with civil disobedience first. I give you that. But your also quick to jump to the go to war part and masses murder and camps.

And last time I checked disagreeing with you and your violent speech doesn't make me wrong.

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SFCRetired · Dec 14, 2013

Before we get too deep in the odoriferous stuff, stop and consider one thing: What is the background and previous home environment of this rash of shooters. The latest one, in Colorado, was labeled as a socialist/progressive in the media and, supposedly, by some of his classmates. I'm not a psychologist, psychiatrist, nor do I play one on television, but I'd be willing to bet that there is a common thread there somewhere.

As concerns the question, "Have any of the major school shootings been done by a Christian?" posed by Onus; there is a very good possibility that one or more of these people claimed to be Christian. Claiming to be Christian does not make one a true follower of the Nazarene Carpenter.

77zach · Dec 14, 2013

SFCRetired said:
Before we get too deep in the odoriferous stuff, stop and consider one thing: What is the background and previous home environment of this rash of shooters. The latest one, in Colorado, was labeled as a socialist/progressive in the media and, supposedly, by some of his classmates. I'm not a psychologist, psychiatrist, nor do I play one on television, but I'd be willing to bet that there is a common thread there somewhere.

As concerns the question, "Have any of the major school shootings been done by a Christian?" posed by Onus; there is a very good possibility that one or more of these people claimed to be Christian. Claiming to be Christian does not make one a true follower of the Nazarene Carpenter.

IMO, they're little Lenins, little Mao's, little Marxists frustrated that they can't attain to that level of power and attention. Marx claimed to love humanity, but was intolerable at intimate relationships. I highly recommend this book which looks at the dissolute private lives of many so-called "intellectuals":http://www.amazon.com/Intellectuals...&qid=1387079048&sr=8-2&keywords=intellectuals.

Yep, such a common theme in the Bible. Christ harped on it almost to the point of overdoing it for emphasis, yet so many people who haven't studied the bible say Christians are responsible for X,Y,Z horrors, most commonly referring to the Crusades.

cmr287 · Dec 14, 2013

Because it is the easiest way for a liberal socialist to shoot up a large population without someone being armed..... HELLO!!!!!!

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77zach · Dec 14, 2013

cmr287 said:
Because it is the easiest way for a liberal socialist to shoot up a large population without someone being armed..... HELLO!!!!!!

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+1

Makes you wonder why liberal socialists, who largely control tax funded schools, hate children so much that they demand no adult be able to protect them. Pretty disgusting.

sudden valley gunner · Dec 15, 2013

Again the cop jumps in to bash without fully comprehending what was said.

It is a good question, and should be asked, I look at Republicans and Democrats as on the pseudo left but it seems the more hard core leftist have a history of these shootings.

It is also a good question to ask why they are also mostly white.

We can't be afraid of asking politically incorrect questions if we are serious about finding out the truth.

stealthyeliminator · Dec 15, 2013

Primus said:
He was white. The media isn't playing that up. Start a thread that its only white guys that do it. Or young males.

I'm pretty sure I know why they have that narrative and they don't need a school shooter to prove it to them.

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Such a thread would be entirely inaccurate. Perhaps that is why one isn't created.

cirrusly · Dec 15, 2013

77zach said:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/20...school-shooter-was-pro-gun-control-socialist/

Add him to the Illinois shooter, the gabby giffords, and the Aurora shooter, and the navy yard shooter, off the top of my head

Projection I guess. I've talked to a few pro "gun control" people and they've cited "I wouldn't trust myself with a gun" as a valid reason for trampling rights.

Your thread title and claim is not factually sound. I recently corrected another poster on this similar topic:

cirrusly said:
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/showthread.php?119114-School-shooting

Sandy Hook Elementary shooter: Adam Lanza had " a conservative worldview. [...] He was always very free-market economics and capitalism, as I think most people are in this country."
http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_n...and-his-mother

Aurora shooter: "[James] Holmes [...] had 'middle-of-the-road' political views..."
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...s-of-mind.html

Please ensure your posts are factually accurate prior to posting. Dissemination of emotional-based "facts" only give ammunition to gun-grabbers.

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