Aaron1124
Regular Member
So I was browsing Yahoo Answers, and came across someone who made a comment about how military bases should allow their soldiers to be armed while on base. Every responder came on and bashed him; even several people who are in the military. You would think the military, being a defender and supporter of the U.S. Constitution would defend the 2nd Amendment EVERYWHERE, but the following post is absolutely unbelievable. I will copy and paste one of the answers..
"I hope you are having a great day. I truly understand your question. You are correct the military is to support and defend the Constitution. You are totally incorrect that all soldiers are “proficiently trained in firearms”. And please, do not arm them with pistols. How would you like too accidently get shot in the back, because a soldier dropped his/her pistol on the floor?
Hank, do you have any idea how many soldiers are killed or wounded from accidental discharge of firearms or friendly fire under combat or non combat conditions? There have been THOUSANDS (1000’s). This is something the military does not like to write or talk about. The military estimates friendly fire/accidental deaths since World War II thru Desert Storm at 10% to 14%. That does NOT include wounded data. The military will sometimes cover up the facts. I would like to give you two examples from my own experiences.
On October 9, 2010, I was invited to attend a Military Memorial dedication at Bishop Amat High School in Los Angeles. This high school lost eleven (11) soldiers in Vietnam. One soldier was in my outfit. I read each profile. One soldier was KIA “shortly following an airmobile return to the Platoon Base Camp, the M-16 of a squad mate discharged during cleaning. The round struck Stanley and mortally wounded him on the 26th of October 1967. Stanley received a posthumous promotion to sergeant. He was class of 1963.”
http://www.bishopamat.org/Articles.aspx?…
One other soldier also died from accidental discharge of a fire arm by his fellow soldier. Two soldiers died in helicopter crashes, and one died in a jeep accident. Hank, you can do the percentages??? The military is not what you see on television. The data does not mean much unless it was you, your son/daughter, or husband/wife…..10% to 14%....something to really think about.
I served in an elite assault helicopter company (part of the 101 airborne division) deep in the Mekong Delta in Vietnam. Two days into Tet 68’ a mortar round hit a Huey Gunship. Ammo and rockets were flying all over the place. Hit photo #6-10 on web site below.
http://www.oldsite.336ahc.com/images/gus…
We had soldiers running all over the place. The whole small airbase opened up with M-79’s, fifties, and M-60’s. Red and green tracers were flying all over the base. Some soldiers were so scare they were seeing VC breaking through the perimeter. Some of their eyes were as big as watermelons. We were all in fear of getting killed by our own men. It took us ten minutes to finally get these soldiers to cease fire.
In your case Hank, if you arm every clerical soldier, every cook, every supply person, and every mechical worker on any military base, the Nidal Malik Hasan incident could/may have turned into uncontrollable mass hastier. Many soldiers could have died or been wounded. You have no idea of the panic, the stories, and roomers which could have started. There is no way in hell I would want to be on a military base in which all the soldiers were armed. You are assuming that all soldiers are trained.
Do you have any idea what happens to soldiers in a shoot out? I have witnessed soldiers in combat shoot off their own rotor blades and crash because of panic.
Okay Hank, I know by the thumbs downs and your question how you stand and think on this subject. Therefore let’s do it your way. We will arm every soldier on a military base. If I were a terrorist, I GUARANTEE I could take four (4) men at night and have soldiers on that base shooting at each other within fifteen (15) minutes. I know this as a fact and believe me the US Military also knows this as a fact. That is the reason all military soldiers are not armed on a military base.
Thanks for your excellent question. I know it is very hard to understand my answer unless you have seen men panic under combat conditions. You and your family have a great day. Peace, from Los Angeles."
"I hope you are having a great day. I truly understand your question. You are correct the military is to support and defend the Constitution. You are totally incorrect that all soldiers are “proficiently trained in firearms”. And please, do not arm them with pistols. How would you like too accidently get shot in the back, because a soldier dropped his/her pistol on the floor?
Hank, do you have any idea how many soldiers are killed or wounded from accidental discharge of firearms or friendly fire under combat or non combat conditions? There have been THOUSANDS (1000’s). This is something the military does not like to write or talk about. The military estimates friendly fire/accidental deaths since World War II thru Desert Storm at 10% to 14%. That does NOT include wounded data. The military will sometimes cover up the facts. I would like to give you two examples from my own experiences.
On October 9, 2010, I was invited to attend a Military Memorial dedication at Bishop Amat High School in Los Angeles. This high school lost eleven (11) soldiers in Vietnam. One soldier was in my outfit. I read each profile. One soldier was KIA “shortly following an airmobile return to the Platoon Base Camp, the M-16 of a squad mate discharged during cleaning. The round struck Stanley and mortally wounded him on the 26th of October 1967. Stanley received a posthumous promotion to sergeant. He was class of 1963.”
http://www.bishopamat.org/Articles.aspx?…
One other soldier also died from accidental discharge of a fire arm by his fellow soldier. Two soldiers died in helicopter crashes, and one died in a jeep accident. Hank, you can do the percentages??? The military is not what you see on television. The data does not mean much unless it was you, your son/daughter, or husband/wife…..10% to 14%....something to really think about.
I served in an elite assault helicopter company (part of the 101 airborne division) deep in the Mekong Delta in Vietnam. Two days into Tet 68’ a mortar round hit a Huey Gunship. Ammo and rockets were flying all over the place. Hit photo #6-10 on web site below.
http://www.oldsite.336ahc.com/images/gus…
We had soldiers running all over the place. The whole small airbase opened up with M-79’s, fifties, and M-60’s. Red and green tracers were flying all over the base. Some soldiers were so scare they were seeing VC breaking through the perimeter. Some of their eyes were as big as watermelons. We were all in fear of getting killed by our own men. It took us ten minutes to finally get these soldiers to cease fire.
In your case Hank, if you arm every clerical soldier, every cook, every supply person, and every mechical worker on any military base, the Nidal Malik Hasan incident could/may have turned into uncontrollable mass hastier. Many soldiers could have died or been wounded. You have no idea of the panic, the stories, and roomers which could have started. There is no way in hell I would want to be on a military base in which all the soldiers were armed. You are assuming that all soldiers are trained.
Do you have any idea what happens to soldiers in a shoot out? I have witnessed soldiers in combat shoot off their own rotor blades and crash because of panic.
Okay Hank, I know by the thumbs downs and your question how you stand and think on this subject. Therefore let’s do it your way. We will arm every soldier on a military base. If I were a terrorist, I GUARANTEE I could take four (4) men at night and have soldiers on that base shooting at each other within fifteen (15) minutes. I know this as a fact and believe me the US Military also knows this as a fact. That is the reason all military soldiers are not armed on a military base.
Thanks for your excellent question. I know it is very hard to understand my answer unless you have seen men panic under combat conditions. You and your family have a great day. Peace, from Los Angeles."