Not even the pizza guy is safe

poor pizza guy was just trying to make a buck
http://www.q13fox.com/news/kcpq-rob...ash-pizza-at-gunpoint-20111004,0,223921.story

He should have stayed in his car and called dispatch or called the phone of the house where he was delivering to get better directions. We have had a few stories in the past of pizza delivery people being robbed and even shot at. I hope he wises up, gets a pistol and a CPL and starts carrying. I would think that having a pistol stuck in your face would motivate you to do something to protect yourself. It should be obvious to him my now that the police can't protect him.

I remember reading a story not too long ago about a private eatery with delivery service that actually required all their delivery personel to obtain a CPL and carry while making depliveries. I wish I could find the story again but google is being lending no help.

Delivering Pizza in this area at 10PM should require a Police escort. As for the "Pizza Guy" arming himself? Why not just get a job delivering pizza in a better part of town. Bigger tips elsewhere too.

amlevin said:

Delivering Pizza in this area at 10PM should require a Police escort. As for the "Pizza Guy" arming himself? Why not just get a job delivering pizza in a better part of town. Bigger tips elsewhere too.

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Because stoned teenagers have a right to late-night pizza too dammit! Do not deny a stoner his munchies!

Metalhead47 said:

Because stoned teenagers have a right to late-night pizza too dammit! Do not deny a stoner his munchies!

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A stoner gives up his right to munchies the moment he decides to become a stoner. I call the police every time I see one (assuming they are smoking and its obvious). I can't stand druggies. I realize that you were probably being sarcastic with your post or joking...just needed to vent at something and this seemed just as good as the next thing.

Wolfebane said:

A stoner gives up his right to munchies the moment he decides to become a stoner. I call the police every time I see one (assuming they are smoking and its obvious). I can't stand druggies. I realize that you were probably being sarcastic with your post or joking...just needed to vent at something and this seemed just as good as the next thing.

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So do you call the police for drinkers, smokers, caffeine users and others too? Use = abuse in your world view eh? Do you also call the police about people who are rude, mean, lustful, foul-mouthed? It is the role of police to reduce and punish undesirable behavior in society after all, right? Even, nay, ESPECIALLY for behaviors that harm only the doer like alcohol, nicotine & caffeine. Since this whole idea of "rights" only applies to you and those who think like you, right?




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Wolfebane said:

A stoner gives up his right to munchies the moment he decides to become a stoner. I call the police every time I see one (assuming they are smoking and its obvious). I can't stand druggies. I realize that you were probably being sarcastic with your post or joking...just needed to vent at something and this seemed just as good as the next thing.

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u mad bro?

Not even the pizza guy is safe

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When has the job of pizza delivery ever been considered safe? They get robbed all the time. It's no secret.

Wolfebane said:

A stoner gives up his right to munchies the moment he decides to become a stoner. I call the police every time I see one (assuming they are smoking and its obvious). I can't stand druggies. I realize that you were probably being sarcastic with your post or joking...just needed to vent at something and this seemed just as good as the next thing.

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Metalhead47 said:

So do you call the police for drinkers, smokers, caffeine users and others too? Use = abuse in your world view eh? Do you also call the police about people who are rude, mean, lustful, foul-mouthed? It is the role of police to reduce and punish undesirable behavior in society after all, right? Even, nay, ESPECIALLY for behaviors that harm only the doer like alcohol, nicotine & caffeine. Since this whole idea of "rights" only applies to you and those who think like you, right?




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I call because it is currently illegal and against my current morals (yes it is possible to have cognitive dissonance) I do not wish to be around those who abuse illegal substances or abuse prescription drugs. I also choose to avoid smokers and drunkards. But I do not call the police for smokers or drunks, unless someone is drunk in public and causing a disturbance. Someone always brings up what you did "oh you must call the cops on everyone then because its all the same thing" No, no it is not. For starters, one is illegal, the other is not. Yes, both being drunk and smoking pot impair fine motor skills and it is thus illegal to operate a motor-vehicle while under the influence of either.

I have no problem with those that smoke or use alcohol in moderation. Now you might say "But what about pot use in moderation what about that huh, huh, huh...got yah" No, no you haven't. It may be cliche to say, but I have personally found it to be true - pot is a gateway drug. I have personally known at least half a dozen people throughout my life that have started with pot and gone onto other things in search of that ever increase high. Smoking cigarettes does not lead to any other "harder" forms of tobacco or is even linked to people picking up alcohol.

Schlitz said:

u mad bro?

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I thought this was a good place where idiotic internet memes were not, given the nature of the site (and the fact that you have to be 21(WA) in order to legally participate in the actual purpose of the site.)

Also, I said that it was merely a vent - so no, I am not mad "bro."

Wolfebane said:

I call because it is currently illegal and against my current morals (yes it is possible to have cognitive dissonance) I do not wish to be around those who abuse illegal substances or abuse prescription drugs. I also choose to avoid smokers and drunkards. But I do not call the police for smokers or drunks, unless someone is drunk in public and causing a disturbance. Someone always brings up what you did "oh you must call the cops on everyone then because its all the same thing" No, no it is not. For starters, one is illegal, the other is not. Yes, both being drunk and smoking pot impair fine motor skills and it is thus illegal to operate a motor-vehicle while under the influence of either.

I have no problem with those that smoke or use alcohol in moderation. Now you might say "But what about pot use in moderation what about that huh, huh, huh...got yah" No, no you haven't. It may be cliche to say, but I have personally found it to be true - pot is a gateway drug. I have personally known at least half a dozen people throughout my life that have started with pot and gone onto other things in search of that ever increase high. Smoking cigarettes does not lead to any other "harder" forms of tobacco or is even linked to people picking up alcohol.



I thought this was a good place where idiotic internet memes were not, given the nature of the site (and the fact that you have to be 21(WA) in order to legally participate in the actual purpose of the site.)

Also, I said that it was merely a vent - so no, I am not mad "bro."

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Yes, it is cliche... Alcohol is the real gateway drug. Destroys millions of lives a year and over all does far more damage to society than pot, yet you want to argue that pot is bad & beer is good - just don't overdo it. You see the fallacy there? I personally knew dozens of casual pot smokers, and they all knew dozens... Yet none of us went on to do anything worse than the occasional shroom, nor did we even know of anyone who did. So that part of your argument is jus plain bull.

All that is completely irrelevant of course. You go talking morality then try to assert that it's moral to send someone to prison and destroy their life for the mere possession of one psychoactive substance while saying another is ok. You endorse unconstitutional and tyrannical laws that have been proven over and over again not to do a single damn thing to curb use or "help" anyone, but only make people like al Capone & the Juarez cartels, people who actually harm others, filthy rich and powerful as princes.

If someone want to drink beer, smoke pot, or snort meth that's no ones business but their own as long as they do not directly harm or endanger others by doing so. Operating a motor vehicle under the influence directly endangers others. Smoking a joint at home or standing on the street corner does not.


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Oh and Green might challenge the notion that only those 21+ can lawfully OC


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Wolfebane said:

I thought this was a good place where idiotic internet memes were not, given the nature of the site (and the fact that you have to be 21(WA) in order to legally participate in the actual purpose of the site.)

Also, I said that it was merely a vent - so no, I am not mad "bro."

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he mad. I'm not in WA by the way, I'm over 21, and I was just messing with you, lighten up. people are going to think you're skidmark.


on topic though, you call the police every time you see someone break a law even if they aren't effecting anyone else's life, liberty, or persuit of happiness? someone rolls through a stop sign, you call the police? someone turns w/o a blinker? you call the police?

pot is a gateway drug. I have personally known at least half a dozen people throughout my life that have started with pot and gone onto other things in search of that ever increase high.

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Your friends are idiots and ruin their lives - you blame a plant? I know of multiple people that were EXRTEMELY smart that were pot heads. One of them was the valedictorian of his class. So weed is not why people ruin their lives and get into some hard drugs with permenant effects. It is no worse than alchohol.

I call because it is currently illegal and against my current morals

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You're going to get a lot of flak in this forum making statements like that. Not only is this a gun rights forum, most people here believe in freedom in general. If we demand freedom on one field then we need to respect freedom on all.

I used to be like you, I use to think marijuana was some form of evil, why? because it's illegal! Of course it's bad! our legislators said so! Now that I'm all about gun rights I've learned to respect freedom in all areas.

Give it time, you'll come around if you stay on these forums long enough. OCDO has changed me.


For the record I have NEVER touched marijuana. I simply believe in freedom.

Schlitz said:

For the record I have NEVER touched marijuana. I simply believe in freedom.

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I never do MJ either but I know lots who do most are "productive" members of society.

sudden valley gunner said:

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I never do MJ either but I know lots who do most are "productive" members of society.

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You're calling Bill Clinton "productive"??? Of course he never inhaled though

amlevin said:

You're calling Bill Clinton "productive"??? Of course he never inhaled though

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I don't know Bill Clinton. I know of him though..........but lets not forget George Bush was an alleged illegal drug user too.

sudden valley gunner said:

I don't know Bill Clinton. I know of him though..........but lets not forget George Bush was an alleged illegal drug user too.

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But George definitely "inhaled", like in "snort".

amlevin said:

But George definitely "inhaled", like in "snort".

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Yep that was what I was thinking about.

sudden valley gunner said:

Yep that was what I was thinking about.

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Again, what's it matter? His business, nobody else's. IIRC his (legal) alcohol issues were more of a problem for others.

BillyBob is another matter. If he really didn't inhale, he deserves derision for wasting someone else's good bud. :banghead:

Metalhead47 said:

Again, what's it matter? His business, nobody else's. IIRC his (legal) alcohol issues were more of a problem for others.

BillyBob is another matter. If he really didn't inhale, he deserves derision for wasting someone else's good bud. :banghead:

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It doesn't matter which is sort of my point, if several of our presidents were drug users it is kind of hypocritical of our system to crush others for their recreational use.

Imagine if Bush, Clinton, or Obama were arrested and served time for their use, they would never have been presidents. Yet they did nothing to relieve the idiotic laws that criminalize personal choice.

And look at all the great music we have from drug users. Who often make real crappy music after they clean up.....lol. :lol: