WE[/B] are the only ones who truly understand what
WE are going through and you other folk just don't understand our sacrifices ...' Succient and sincere BS is proffered to the rhetoric.
Again, it is not you or yours getting terminated for your perceived cause and doing w/o income and medical coverage for the cause. In fact, you yourself make the comment
Quote: I know that it is much easier for me to say these things,
my livelihood is not on the line.
Please be careful . unquote.
Now why on earth would you give the OP any type of warning to be careful after you just give them the advice it is illegal for management to fire them??
Quote:Well, by these standards we can
never have a victory, because we never know the
final outcome. Unquote Rhetorical BS and warmongering at its finest.
Quote: You seem to not understand what "at will" employment is. Any employee, anywhere can be terminated
for cause. Even employees under union contracts can be terminated for cause. The difference is in "at will" employment an employee can be terminated for
NO CAUSE, but there are still legal limitations as I posted in post #9. unquote.
Let’s see you stated in post 9: quote: Many Ky. cities/counties have an ordinance that says that an employee can only be fired for "just cause".
Quote: I never advised anyone to " 'carry a gun to work' and then they can't fine you." Unquote.
10 Mar 2014, 1434,GUTSHOT’s post in response to Willy's post
willy's comment)
I depend on my paycheck so I wasn't going to just walking in with a gun on my hip. Gutshots reply: quote: That might be the best way to insure that they can't fire you. After you did that, you'd be "fire proof". No matter what happened afterward, it would always look like that was the reason they fired you. unquote.
I've always said this was poorly handled. This is not the first time this has come up in Ky. and it won't be the last. That doesn't stop people from resisting unlawful acts by local governments. Michael Mitchell didn't give up when his "at will" employment was terminated by the University of Ky. He had no job, he had no money, he didn't worry about his future promotions. I haven't heard any suggestions from you on how it should be handled. It sounds like your solution is that he should just give up, bend over and take it. That might be a "solution" in your home state of North Carolina, but here we would not consider it so. Even if this ends up with the worst possible outcome for him immediately, I can assure you that won't be the end of the matter and others will keep up the pressure on his employer. This is one reason that Ky. has good gun laws. He can stop right now if he wants to, but he has always wanted to do this on his own. At this point, I doubt there would be anyone unaware of the source of the dispute.[/SIZE][/FONT]
I'm sorry, first i heard of a Mr Mitchell whose 2009 discharge from UoKy was for having a
CONCEALED firearm in his glove box on University of Ky’s parking area. The august Supreme Court of KY reversed lower court’s ruling(s) specifically due to the fact Mr. Mitchell possessed a
CONCEAL CARRY WEAPON permit, and his firearm was
CONCEALED in his vehicle's glove box.
quote section IIC ‘…pursuant to KRS 527.020(4) and (8), UK improperly prohibited Mitchell from keeping a firearm in his glove compartment (pursuant to KRS 527.020(8)) or anywhere else in his vehicle (pursuant to KRS 527.020(4), because Mitchell had
A CONCEALED CARRY LICENSE.
It forbids a public organization, such as a university, from prohibiting the possession of a firearm in the glove compartment of a vehicle.
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http://caselaw.findlaw.com/ky-supreme-court/1600102.html:
I shan’t delve into your mindset regarding citing case law and statutes concerning Mr. Mitchell’s plight regarding his 2009 termination over having a
CONCEALED handgun relates to the OP’s query about how to get their employer to allow employees being
allowed to OC’g in their work environment.
But will go back to my initial thought…who kept Mr. Mitchell's house payments current? Who put food on his table? Finally, yippee, how much of the restitution did the attorneys get?
Bottom line you are unemployed your without livelihood and prevented from working in your chosen field.
my suggestion was posted in #39 and nowhere did i suggest the OP give up. this was right before you launched into your freedom and liberty snit and rant towards me. Additionally, you might wish to review what was written cuz i didn't say those things you just posted.
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; May your chains set lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that ye were our countrymen."
Samuel Adams
