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Hero Fired.....
- Thread starter Mitchell
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G22
Regular Member
Reporter: "So they were pointing a gun in your face, did you sense despite the fact that they were pointing a gun, that you were threatened?"
You just can't make this stuff up...Where do they find these "journalists"?
You just can't make this stuff up...Where do they find these "journalists"?
DanM
Regular Member
Actually, the journalist was spot on in the whole interview, and did a great job exposing the stupidity of the company for firing an employee who defended his own life. I think the point of the question you quoted was for the journalist to elicit from the employee that there was more than one factor giving the employee reason to fear for his life. Journalists, like lawyers, sometimes ask questions they already know the answer to, in order to hammer something home.
This was an intelligent journalist, with a great piece that was favorable toward self-defense and ridiculing of the company's (Circle K) stupid anti self-defense policy.
NHCGRPR45
Regular Member
Agreed, unfortunately it is about liabillity, it costs less for the employee to get killed than for the employee to get the company sued after defending him/herself. He did well and should be commended for his presence of mind and restraint, not fired.
stainless1911
Banned
What liability?
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Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
A start
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Value_of_life
The liability angle is bunk. If I'm killed while on the job because I couldn't have a firearm, my heirs will sue the employer AND the shooter. And they will pay out something. So it costs them (Employer or Insurance company) money.
If I defend myself with the blessing of my employer and I kill a bad guy the bad guys family will sue the employer and me (I will have some shaky legal protection from suit if shooting is justified.) the employer will not have protection and will pay out money.
In both cases the Employer gets sued and more than likely settles.
In one case the bad guys know the employees are defenseless and in the other they may not be. Which place does the bad guy target? Which one will have the less in-the-long-run liability due to being pro-active?
VW_Factor
Regular Member
Circle K is owned by a Canadian company these days isn't it?
stainless1911
Banned
Why would ANY judge award money to a criminal or the family of one, from either the SD citizen, or an employer?
Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
You assume too much. Settlements don't need no judge.
Super Trucker
Regular Member
It was explained to me that you did not have to work anyplace that didn't allow you to defend yourself, so if you end up dead it was your own fault for voluntarily taking that job.
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NHCGRPR45
Regular Member
Some of Castle Doctrine laws were written to ensure a criminal couldn't sue a person for getting hurt in your home. I have heard of the criminal who fell through a families sky light and won millions, no I can't cite it. Its something I heard a long time ago.
And I don't think its the issue of being sued in the first place its more of a damage control measure. My company has armed and unarmed accounts the armed accounts not only cost more for the better trained security officer but the insurance premiums that go along with it. Being sued is a given, its just how much the insurance company/client has to pay out before the insurance stops and the personal checks start.
Do I agree with it mostly no, but I do understand it.
stainless1911
Banned
I think the skylight thing was in Europe somewhere, not sure tho.
fozzy71
Regular Member
Venator
Anti-Saldana Freedom Fighter
Still wont stop a suit.