scorpio_vette
Regular Member
so this past weekend, i was having a conversation with friends, and the topic of carrying long guns on motorcycles came up.
well i thought we needed to STILL have them UNLOADED AND ENCASED.
but others were saying that as long as it was UNLOADED, it did NOT NEED to be ENCASED, and that you could unload a longun and mount it across the handlebars to transport it wherever you were taking it.
so i decided to read up on this again since i thought the new law did NOT affect the long guns. well now i found 2 DIFFERENT writings. can you help me understand this please.
http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp
CCW FAQ http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ccw-faq-20111020.pdf
but then you go to DNR ACT 51 FAQ http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/enforcement/act51_faq.htm
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so i'm lost. how should i understand that??? so is it illegal or legal to carry a long gun WITHOUT a case as long as it's UNLOADED???
well i thought we needed to STILL have them UNLOADED AND ENCASED.
but others were saying that as long as it was UNLOADED, it did NOT NEED to be ENCASED, and that you could unload a longun and mount it across the handlebars to transport it wherever you were taking it.
so i decided to read up on this again since i thought the new law did NOT affect the long guns. well now i found 2 DIFFERENT writings. can you help me understand this please.
http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ConcealedCarry.asp
CCW FAQ http://www.doj.state.wi.us/dles/cib/ConcealedCarry/ccw-faq-20111020.pdf
If I have a CCW license can I transport the weapon on my person in a vehicle?
Yes. Current law generally requires that firearms being transported in a vehicle be
encased and unloaded, not hidden or concealed and not within reach. In regard to other
weapons, they could not be carried concealed and within reach.
Under the new CCW law, a person with a CCW license may carry a concealed
weapon (handgun, knife, electric weapon or billy club) in a vehicle.
However, long guns are still subject to the requirement of being fully encased and
unloaded, not hidden and not within reach.
If I do not have a CCW license how do I transport weapons in a vehicle?
A. Handguns
The law now allows a person to do the following without a CCW permit:
place, possess, or transport a handgun in a vehicle without being
unloaded or encased. Wis. Stats. § 167.31(2)(b).
load a handgun in a vehicle. Wis. Stats. § 167.31(2)(c).
operate an all-terrain vehicle (ATV) with a handgun in the operator‘s
possession. Wis. Stat. § 23.33(3)(a).
place, possess, or transport a handgun in or on a motorboat with the motor
running without being unloaded or encased. Wis. Stats. § 167.31(2)(a), (b),
(c).
place, possess, or transport a handgun in or on a noncommercial aircraft.
IMPORTANT NOTE: Persons who do not have a CCW license may still not
carry weapons concealed. In a vehicle this means that the firearm cannot be
hidden or concealed and within reach.
B. Long guns
The law has been changed regarding hand guns but the requirements for
transporting long guns still remains. A long gun being transported in a vehicle,
boat, or non-commercial aircraft must be unloaded and enclosed in a case that is
completely zipped, snapped, buckled, tied or otherwise fastened with no part of
the firearm exposed. Wis. Stat. § 167.31(2)(a), (b)
but then you go to DNR ACT 51 FAQ http://dnr.wi.gov/org/es/enforcement/act51_faq.htm
Q1: Do firearms still have to be in a case before they are placed in or on a motorized vehicle, including ATVs, UTVs, snowmobiles and farm implements?
A: No. Effective Nov. 19, 2011 for rifles, shotguns and muzzleloaders, and Nov. 1, 2011 for handguns, firearms no longer have to be in a case in order to place them in or on a vehicle, or to transport them unloaded in or on a vehicle.
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What has & has not changed:
1. Vehicles, including ATV's, UTV's, Snowmobiles, Bicycles, Horse & Buggy, etc:
BOWS & CROSSBOWS:
NEW - It will be legal to possess and transport uncased bows and crossbows, however, bows may not have an arrow nocked and a crossbow may not be cocked unless it is unloaded and cased.
FIREARMS (other than handguns):
NEW - It will be legal to possess long guns such as rifles, shotguns and muzzleloaders in or on a vehicle in the following manner:
When a vehicle is in motion, long guns can be uncased in or on the vehicle, but must still be unloaded.
When a vehicle which is stationary, long guns can be uncased when placed in or on the vehicle, and can remain loaded when placed on top or against the exterior of the vehicle.
A stationary vehicle can have the motor running. “Stationary” means not moving, regardless of whether the motor is running.
It remains illegal to place a loaded firearm inside any vehicle, or to load or discharge a firearm in or from any moving or a stationary motorized vehicle. The exemption for certain disabled hunters with proper permits remains the same (no change).
so i'm lost. how should i understand that??? so is it illegal or legal to carry a long gun WITHOUT a case as long as it's UNLOADED???