Eques
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Here is the proof that some have demanded, "no news, no google it didnt happen" types.
As for the Cops. Give me a break! Gun's drawn and AR-15's? Threats of possible charges of Disorderly Conduct in the future? I assume this happened after the DC provisions in act 35 took effect. These guys are going to have to get used to LAC's carrying and need to take it down a notch or ten. I think this huge over reacting response is a new record for OC in WI.
searching his vehicle, running the gun, then running him for wants and warrants?! trying to get anything they can, any way they can. nothing has changed, and nothing will change once we all get permits.
Yes, force majeure may be so subtle as a cop using his big-boy voice. More than one, guns drawn or tactical positioning is easily argued as force majeure coercion and custodial detention.He consented. The Police "asked" to search the vehicle. They are always going to ask. It's up to us to tell them NO. Everything before that; I agree, way out of line. ETA: BTW; Eques, I didn't think about this in my first post but if you felt that you didn't have a choice and had to consent to the search of your vehicle or felt intimidated into doing so in any way by the armed soldiers, you may have been coerced in the eyes of the court and it may be a legally actionable 4A violation. Please contact a lawyer.
It never does. We push back in making the police obey the law.Hopefully you guys in WI will not let this go by, if this cancer is allowed to spread it could kill all our rights
Sounds like there is an effort to harass open carriers in FdL. Wonder how many times the not-so veiled threat "you could cause a distribance that will result in a disorderly conduct charge" will be used in the future. Would not at all be suprised that over-response is a tactic the Wisconsin Police Chiefs Association has recommended to its members. Their legislative liason is a buddy of the chief WAVE ghoul.
Yes, force majeure may be so subtle as a cop using his big-boy voice. More than one, guns drawn or tactical positioning is easily argued as force majeure coercion and custodial detention.
"Consent obtained by duress or coercion is not voluntary consent." Lakoskey, 462 F.3d at 973.
Then, in their wisdom, emparted that enjoying his constitutional right, under US and WI law,
Thanks for the [scare-quotes]education[/scare-quotes]. LOLForce majeure applies to contract law in the US. Although the definition includes "Overpowering force," it is not generally applied to police power used in an instant case against an individual unless that police 'power' causes breach of a contractual clause.
That being said, I called out the original post on this a MAJOR BS. I was correct. Two officers, one with a rifle and another with a handgun, as in the report. NOT the TEN(10) officers with assault rifles, shotguns and handguns drawn as claimed in the original post. F.B.S.