Police looking for me. http://www.fox11online.com/dpp/news/open-carry-incident-Pulaski. What should I do?
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Police looking for me?
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J.Gleason
Banned
Stand up for your rights! Tell them you are spreading the word and the store will be losing customers. Pickett outside the store to gain some media attention and negative coverage for the store.
Spartacus
Banned
Its doubtful that there is a warrant out for your arrest, so the cops just want to question you.
Let them find you if they can but don't sweat it. If you left the stores as requested without incident you did nothing wrong.
Let them find you if they can but don't sweat it. If you left the stores as requested without incident you did nothing wrong.
Spartacus
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jimd_21
Regular Member
Since it is legal and nothing can be done to you. I would suggest contacting a few other oc'ers in your area and arrange a meet with the reporter and the police in a public location.
Also have your own vid cameras and voice recorders going to keep the reporter honest.
Also have your own vid cameras and voice recorders going to keep the reporter honest.
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Spartacus
Banned
Shane. Don't sweat it.
If the cops come and talk to you just tell them what you know. No big deal... you did nothing wrong.
If the cops come and talk to you just tell them what you know. No big deal... you did nothing wrong.
Shotgun
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
Why would you need a lawyer?
Wisconsin Carry Inc. - Chairman
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
I wouldn't suggest speaking to the police but that is your call.
Even when you have done nothing wrong, it is advisable not to speak to the police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
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I can assure you, if you DID have an attorney, they would tell you the same thing "don't speak to the police"
Open-Carry is legal. I know it, you know it, Channel 11 knows it and the police know it.
If they want to talk to you, there is no benefit to you. Be polite but decline to speak with them.
Even when you have done nothing wrong, it is advisable not to speak to the police.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
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I can assure you, if you DID have an attorney, they would tell you the same thing "don't speak to the police"
Open-Carry is legal. I know it, you know it, Channel 11 knows it and the police know it.
If they want to talk to you, there is no benefit to you. Be polite but decline to speak with them.
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paul@paul-fisher.com
Regular Member
I can't seem to find an online source for ordinances in Pulaski.
No matter what, even if they have an ordinance against it, it is either an illegal ordinance or not enforceable (is that better Doug?).
Go to www.wisconsincarry.org and go to the 'legal' link. Print out the WI AG memo, read it, carry it with you.
Personally I would not go to the police. Depending on how comfortable you are, I would contact the reporter. If you do go to the police, bring a voice recorder and record it. It is legal to do so without telling the cops you are doing it.
Maybe someone with more experience is nearer to you?
No matter what, even if they have an ordinance against it, it is either an illegal ordinance or not enforceable (is that better Doug?).
Go to www.wisconsincarry.org and go to the 'legal' link. Print out the WI AG memo, read it, carry it with you.
Personally I would not go to the police. Depending on how comfortable you are, I would contact the reporter. If you do go to the police, bring a voice recorder and record it. It is legal to do so without telling the cops you are doing it.
Maybe someone with more experience is nearer to you?
Nutczak
Regular Member
That is the absolute worst advice ever given to anyone!!
You don't say a friggin word! You did nothing wrong!
littlewolf
Regular Member
Wisconsin Carry Inc. - Chairman
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
also a few things to keep in mind. Its hard to say where this reporter got his information.
Its very possible someone told the reporter someone was OC'ing in the store, the reporter calls the store, they confirm it, reporter then calls police and police say "yeah we'll look into it" and there is nothing more to it other than the reporter coming back with a story saying "Police looking for a man who was OC'ing"
I wouldn't be surprised if the police aren't really "looking" at all other than that if they should happen to come upon him they may try to have a consensual conversation.
As I read this story, and thought about how media handle these things, it wouldn't surprise me in this case.
Around Milwaukee the news had the following M.O. on EVERY single story. Report an incident, robot call the police for what they are going to do, and try to contact those involved and then print the story in the most hyped up way possible.
"police looking for man with gun" grabs much more attention than "person lawfully OC'ing: police say "yeah, we'll check it out"
Its very possible someone told the reporter someone was OC'ing in the store, the reporter calls the store, they confirm it, reporter then calls police and police say "yeah we'll look into it" and there is nothing more to it other than the reporter coming back with a story saying "Police looking for a man who was OC'ing"
I wouldn't be surprised if the police aren't really "looking" at all other than that if they should happen to come upon him they may try to have a consensual conversation.
As I read this story, and thought about how media handle these things, it wouldn't surprise me in this case.
Around Milwaukee the news had the following M.O. on EVERY single story. Report an incident, robot call the police for what they are going to do, and try to contact those involved and then print the story in the most hyped up way possible.
"police looking for man with gun" grabs much more attention than "person lawfully OC'ing: police say "yeah, we'll check it out"
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Spartacus
Banned
^^^ Thats what I said. lol
And since Shane did nothing wrong there is no reason not to have a pleasant conversation with LEO about open carry.
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Ponch
Regular Member
Since when it it any of their damn business why you're carrying? What are the likely outcomes here?
I'd keep on OCing, since it's perfectly legal, but I absolutely would not contact the cops. When they sooner or later run into you and detain you, I wouldn't talk to them.
Chance that talking to them will convince them of anything: zero.
Chance that talking to them will get you charged with something: not zero.
Chance that talking to them will get you charged with something: not zero.
I'd keep on OCing, since it's perfectly legal, but I absolutely would not contact the cops. When they sooner or later run into you and detain you, I wouldn't talk to them.
Spartacus
Banned
I never said Contact Them. lol I said if they find him, talk to them firmly and politely and try to educate them.
If they arrest him they will regret it.
Motofixxer
Regular Member
I agree, no need to speak to the Police. I know of an instance where an 18yr old did a burnout in front of a business. He left but someone called the Police and through the grape vine he got a phone call from them. The officer said why don't you come to the station and talk to me. So he did. The officer listened to the story. Then cited him based on his confession!!! So I recommend to everybody don't talk to them if they are asking. But you could talk to the reporter. I would do it from a pay phone or something untraceable just to be sure. But make sure you record it.
Wisconsin Carry Inc. - Chairman
Wisconsin Carry, Inc.
WOW..
I did some research today.
Here is an email sent from the Pulaski Chief of Police to the Pulaski Chamber of Commerce.
So first guilty until proven innocent? The Pulaski police assume you are a felon or in a mental state to do harm to yourself and others UNTIL they can "evaluate" you?
Thats wrong on so many levels
Second, the police chief is ADVISING local businesses to deny entry to law-abiding customers?
Look Chief Dunford. Let them know its legal. Leave your personal "advice" out of your professional obligation.
I'd say its time to get involved here.
I did some research today.
Here is an email sent from the Pulaski Chief of Police to the Pulaski Chamber of Commerce.
So first guilty until proven innocent? The Pulaski police assume you are a felon or in a mental state to do harm to yourself and others UNTIL they can "evaluate" you?
Thats wrong on so many levels
Second, the police chief is ADVISING local businesses to deny entry to law-abiding customers?
Look Chief Dunford. Let them know its legal. Leave your personal "advice" out of your professional obligation.
I'd say its time to get involved here.
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paul@paul-fisher.com
Regular Member
Nik,
What do you want us to do? Email the chief? Email the reporter? Do we need to gather in Pulaski? I'm available if we need a show of 'force'.
What do you want us to do? Email the chief? Email the reporter? Do we need to gather in Pulaski? I'm available if we need a show of 'force'.