Neo
Campaign Veteran
I will be visiting this area soon and was wondering if anyone has had any experience with OC there. TIA!
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OC in South Pittsburg/Kimball, TN
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Neo
Campaign Veteran
97 views and no replies?! Is no one here from Marion county or is there a separate TN OC forum? We've got to get more members!
Kingfish
Regular Member
The lack of reply may be telling also. Assuming you have searched and come across no negative encounters then it could be assumed that you are good to go (as you are most anywhere in TN.)
Neo
Campaign Veteran
The issue is, of course, pre-1986 laws in certain locales in TN that were allowed to remain (e.g. in Belle Meade) after the TN shall-issue legislation went into effect. I don't want to walk into a town and immediately get arrested because I didn't know they were the exception rather than the rule.
Kingfish
Regular Member
If one is concerned about a possible old law / ordinances which could bite your butt, the best answer is to go to the locality's website, and ask to see a list of their laws / ordinances.
FYI: The so called "Belle Meade Law" was not being enforced, and was practically forgotten, until someone brought it to their attention in a very public fashion. It was removed, once attention was brought to the law, as it was in direct conflict of the superior state law...
Go read the Tennessee Law. (google tennessee code) or go here:
http://www.tennessee.gov/safety/handgun/handgunfaqs.htm
And here for any reciprocity clarification:
http://www.tennessee.gov/safety/handgun/reciprocity.htm
Here is what the pre-1986 stuff is about: (source: michie.com)
39-17-1314. Local regulation of firearms and ammunition preempted by state regulation — Actions against firearms or ammunition manufacturers, trade associations or dealers. —
(a) Except as provided in § 39-17-1311(d), which allows counties and municipalities to prohibit the possession of handguns while within or on a public park, natural area, historic park, nature trail, campground, forest, greenway, waterway or other similar public place that is owned or operated by a county, a municipality or instrumentality thereof, no city, county, or metropolitan government shall occupy any part of the field of regulation of the transfer, ownership, possession or transportation of firearms, ammunition or components of firearms or combinations thereof; provided, that this section shall be prospective only and shall not affect the validity of any ordinance or resolution lawfully enacted before April 8, 1986. (emphasis added.)
Again, most localities did NOT have any laws /ordinances which impacted carry. And, if they did have, generally, they are not enforced. Again, if worried check with the specific municipality...
FYI: The so called "Belle Meade Law" was not being enforced, and was practically forgotten, until someone brought it to their attention in a very public fashion. It was removed, once attention was brought to the law, as it was in direct conflict of the superior state law...
Go read the Tennessee Law. (google tennessee code) or go here:
http://www.tennessee.gov/safety/handgun/handgunfaqs.htm
And here for any reciprocity clarification:
http://www.tennessee.gov/safety/handgun/reciprocity.htm
Here is what the pre-1986 stuff is about: (source: michie.com)
39-17-1314. Local regulation of firearms and ammunition preempted by state regulation — Actions against firearms or ammunition manufacturers, trade associations or dealers. —
(a) Except as provided in § 39-17-1311(d), which allows counties and municipalities to prohibit the possession of handguns while within or on a public park, natural area, historic park, nature trail, campground, forest, greenway, waterway or other similar public place that is owned or operated by a county, a municipality or instrumentality thereof, no city, county, or metropolitan government shall occupy any part of the field of regulation of the transfer, ownership, possession or transportation of firearms, ammunition or components of firearms or combinations thereof; provided, that this section shall be prospective only and shall not affect the validity of any ordinance or resolution lawfully enacted before April 8, 1986. (emphasis added.)
Again, most localities did NOT have any laws /ordinances which impacted carry. And, if they did have, generally, they are not enforced. Again, if worried check with the specific municipality...
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kwikrnu
Banned
Don't give bad advice! Laws are laws. The Second Amendment is well over 200 years old. Old laws may be enforced as seen fit. Just because someone says a law isn't enforced does not mean that they will not decide to enforce said law on you.
You state that the law was in direct conflict with State law. It was not. The Belle Meade law stood and was in no conflict with any State law. TCA 39-17-1314(a) clearly states laws in effect before April 8, 1986 are valid.
Belle Meade no longer has any gun laws as of October 1, 2010. You're welcome.
Neo
Campaign Veteran
That's the kind of thing that concerns me. However, I will report that I OC-ed at the Cracker Barrel in Kimball and at the Goody's there without so much as a glance from most passers-by. No LEO encounters to report, though.
I don't live in TN, but I do visit there frequently. So, thanks, kwikrnu. By the way, I have friends in Brentwood. Are you aware of pre-1986 ordinances there?
kwikrnu
Banned
Again, Neo, the best thing to do is look up the ordinance online, via the town or village website and / or call the town.
Brentwood, I have had no issues, but I have not attempted to carry in posted, or known areas not allowed, such as their public library, or their parks.
http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=12774&stateId=42&stateName=Tennessee
See if a search brings anything up. If not and you really want to make sure you are covered, which I think is wise, email, or call the city attorney.
https://brentwood-tn.org/index.aspx?page=90
Do brush up on the State Code. Remember the Ghostbuster/Gunbuster signs on any door are now valid (under law) blocks to you carrying into the posted building.
Brentwood, I have had no issues, but I have not attempted to carry in posted, or known areas not allowed, such as their public library, or their parks.
http://library.municode.com/index.aspx?clientId=12774&stateId=42&stateName=Tennessee
See if a search brings anything up. If not and you really want to make sure you are covered, which I think is wise, email, or call the city attorney.
https://brentwood-tn.org/index.aspx?page=90
Do brush up on the State Code. Remember the Ghostbuster/Gunbuster signs on any door are now valid (under law) blocks to you carrying into the posted building.