x1wildone
Regular Member
Does anyone know if the Kansas City Convention center is posted for firearms?
That is Bartle Hall. I don't know if it's posted, and I won't be down there for a few weeks. You might get an answer from someone else. If it's posted, the words don't matter, but it needs to be at least 11x14 with 1" high letters for CCW. All states CCW's are honored in Missouri.
RSMO 571.107.1.(15) Any private property whose owner has posted the premises as being off-limits to concealed firearms by means of one or more signs displayed in a conspicuous place of a minimum size of eleven inches by fourteen inches with the writing thereon in letters of not less than one inch. The owner, business or commercial lessee, manager of a private business enterprise, or any other organization, entity, or person may prohibit persons holding a concealed carry endorsement from carrying concealed firearms on the premises and may prohibit employees, not authorized by the employer, holding a concealed carry endorsement from carrying concealed firearms on the property of the employer. If the building or the premises are open to the public, the employer of the business enterprise shall post signs on or about the premises if carrying a concealed firearm is prohibited. Possession of a firearm in a vehicle on the premises shall not be a criminal offense so long as the firearm is not removed from the vehicle or brandished while the vehicle is on the premises. An employer may prohibit employees or other persons holding a concealed carry endorsement from carrying a concealed firearm in vehicles owned by the employer;
The size of the sign and letters does make a difference:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5710000107.htm
But the Missouri laws on CCW are a little strange. There are a lot of places they declare as off-limits to firearms for CCW endorsement holders, but there is no punishment for doing it. In any event, if you are asked to leave, it just seems like good manners to do so. If you refuse to leave and the KCPD are called, you'll get trespassed, and probably a $500 fine.
To be honest, I believe that the City of Kansas City MO owns that building, which would make it off limits due to RSMo 571.107.1.(6). I can't find proof though. If you have a CCW endorement, it follows the pattern above.
Oddly enough, I can't find a prohibition against OC in a city building if you do not have a CCW, or I don't see it in RSMo 571.030 at least. Don't take my word for that though. I've not checked city codes either. But, I seem to remember that it is prohibited by city codes.
The size of the sign and letters does make a difference:
http://www.moga.mo.gov/statutes/c500-599/5710000107.htm
But the Missouri laws on CCW are a little strange. There are a lot of places they declare as off-limits to firearms for CCW endorsement holders, but there is no punishment for doing it.
In any event, if you are asked to leave, it just seems like good manners to do so.
If you refuse to leave and the KCPD are called, you'll get trespassed, and probably a $500 fine.
To be honest, I believe that the City of Kansas City MO owns that building, which would make it off limits due to RSMo 571.107.1.(6). I can't find proof though. If you have a CCW endorement, it follows the pattern above.
Oddly enough, I can't find a prohibition against OC in a city building if you do not have a CCW, or I don't see it in RSMo 571.030 at least. Don't take my word for that though. I've not checked city codes either. But, I seem to remember that it is prohibited by city codes.
This would be the reason for state preemption, 21.750 the sign would not be valid.
Is this convention center a private property ? Owned by ST.Louis
Or a public property?