People considering submitting MD training

paul@paul-fisher.com said:

I had a chat with various legal people.

The contention is that since the rules are 'emergency', suing to get them 'fixed' would be pointless. The best course of action would be to work on our legislators to get the permanent rules fixed.

At best, the courts would most likely put the case on hold until the permanent rules are implemented, which could be many months.

In addition, the challenge to the rules would most likely be heard in Dane County. The part of Act 35 that allowed one to sue in your home county was to challenge the decision against the laws and the rules, not challenging the rules themselves.

So.... please take that for what it is worth.

I will decide before tomorrow which way I am going.

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tomm1963 said:

I would like to submit with just the Maryland on line certificate but the CC application states on the first page-

"All incomplete applications will be returned along with the payment. Any accepted application where the applicant is found to be ineligible for a concealed weapon license will be denied and the payment will not be returned."

So does that mean you lose the application fee if your denied for various reasons like Felony etc or if they don't like the training you submitted.

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tomm1963 said:

I would like to submit with just the Maryland on line certificate but the CC application states on the first page-

"All incomplete applications will be returned along with the payment. Any accepted application where the applicant is found to be ineligible for a concealed weapon license will be denied and the payment will not be returned."

So does that mean you lose the application fee if your denied for various reasons like Felony etc or if they don't like the training you submitted.

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tomm1963 said:

The question... Is submitting MD training course an incomplete application which results in a return of your $50 or is it a denial in which case you pay the teller on the way out. I am thinking this is for peeps who don't pass the background check.... Who's going to pony up a Grant and find out? I might, just need some convincing. And some ideas for what next.

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bmwguy11 said:

A bill was just put through the senate that would allow someone suing the state (or state board, commission, officers, employees, agents, etc) to choose a venue in any county they wish. I believe the assembly will vote on it this week. So once this bill becomes law, the challenge could be heard in a county other than dane county.

http://legis.wisconsin.gov/insession/insessiondocs/docs/SB-117.pdf

relating to: venue for actions and appeals in which
the sole defendant is the state, a state board or commission, or certain state
officers, employees, or agents.

Under current law, all actions in which the sole defendant is the state, a state
board or commission, or certain state officers, employees, or agents must be brought
in Dane County. This bill permits the plaintiff to designate the county within which
to bring the action.
Under current law, the state is divided into ten judicial administrative districts;
each judicial administrative district is comprised of one or more judicial circuits, or
counties, containing branches of the circuit courts. The state is also divided into four
court of appeals districts, comprised of one or more judicial circuits. Currently, an
appeal of a judgment or order issued by a circuit court must be heard in the court of
appeals district within which the circuit court is located. This bill permits the
appellant to select the court of appeals district within which to bring the appeal, but
the court of appeals district must not contain the circuit court from which the
judgment or order was issued.

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TheManInBlack said:

I put mine in... no reply yet... anyone else? Doesn't bother me if I don't get it this time... If i don't, ill wait until the emergency rules are lifted..

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