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FBI foil terror plot

Primus

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Anyone who stands up for the Constitution meaning EXACTLY what it says is beginning to be labeled and SC. If you stand for an Individuals rights over the attempted trampling by The Govt. you are labeled a "Sovereign".

It will only get worse. This isn't going to turn itself around, kids in public schools are assimilated/dumbed down more every day. No one is making any kind of move to draw a line in the sand, It should have happened with the Bank Bailouts in 08, it should have happened during the debate of Obamacare.

Americans are slowly inch by inch giving into a complete takeover of their lives and this FAKE TERROR threat is a big part of it.

Jeff do you believe there are no foreign terrorists trying to harm us? Please just trying to get a yes or no.

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Jeff do you believe there are no foreign terrorists trying to harm us? Please just trying to get a yes or no.


I am sure there are plenty of PEOPLE wanting to harm us in, Afghanistan, Iraq, Yemen, Somalia, etc. Their abilities to harm us however are extremely limited, I would liken it to a welfare recipient in the hills of West Virginia wanting to blow up Mecca. It aint going to happen.

What is a "terrorist" anyway? Does a robbery victim not feel terror, how about assault, rape, murder??????

How about bombing countless villages on the other side of the planet, killing thousands of innocent people, waging a war based on lies that was responsible for a million deaths. Would the perpetrator of those acts be considered a "terrorist"??????


The answer, NO I don't believe "foreign terrorists" are trying to harm us. I believe a very large percentage of the Middle East population would like to though, deservedly so. Their means are virtually nonexistent however.

Your question does not negate the FACT that nearly ALL of the "thwarted" attempts were created, fostered, equipped, recruited for, etc. BY THE FBI! Even the "successful attack in 1993 on the WTC would not have happened without the FBI.


We will reap what we have sown from the Middle East, however nearly all of what has been reaped so far is of OUR GOVERNMENTS doing.
 

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Anyone who stands up for the Constitution meaning EXACTLY what it says is beginning to be labeled and SC. If you stand for an Individuals rights over the attempted trampling by The Govt. you are labeled a "Sovereign".

It will only get worse. This isn't going to turn itself around, kids in public schools are assimilated/dumbed down more every day. No one is making any kind of move to draw a line in the sand, It should have happened with the Bank Bailouts in 08, it should have happened during the debate of Obamacare.

Americans are slowly inch by inch giving into a complete takeover of their lives and this FAKE TERROR threat is a big part of it.

Of course, the lie here is the government's smear of the term sovereign citizen.

The government carefully omits that the only legitimate way it has or maintains power is precisely because its citizens are sovereign. The usual argument is "the will of the people", etc. Meaning collective sovereignty. But, even then, many in the pro-liberty crowd never recognized or overlooked that collective sovereignty cannot possibly arise without individual sovereignty. That is to say, if the individual isn't sovereign, you can't possibly have collective sovereignty. All you'd have is a big group of unsovereign individuals. Of course, government today is going to steer very, very wide of that discussion.

The laughable part is that those stooges in government who present the term soveriegn citizen negatively are actively undermining their own legitimacy.

Of course, any moment now, somebody will come along and say its the militia crowd, etc., who've dirtied the term. Such argument would fall short. Its too easy to see that government takes advantage of the opportunity to smear the term, rather than call attention to misuse by militia, etc., correcting by explanation and refutation.
 

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Anyone who stands up for the Constitution meaning EXACTLY what it says is beginning to be labeled and SC. If you stand for an Individuals rights over the attempted trampling by The Govt. you are labeled a "Sovereign".

It will only get worse. This isn't going to turn itself around, kids in public schools are assimilated/dumbed down more every day. No one is making any kind of move to draw a line in the sand, It should have happened with the Bank Bailouts in 08, it should have happened during the debate of Obamacare.

Americans are slowly inch by inch giving into a complete takeover of their lives and this FAKE TERROR threat is a big part of it.

And the government agent in this thread labels them bad guys and equated them to terrorists, and then labels those he disagrees with as SC.

Should have happened back during Lincolns, time, then T. Roosevelts time, then Wilson's time, then.......
 

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And the government agent in this thread labels them bad guys and equated them to terrorists, and then labels those he disagrees with as SC.

Should have happened back during Lincolns, time, then T. Roosevelts time, then Wilson's time, then.......

What should have happened svg? Please explain?

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Jeff. State

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Jeff I agree. I really don't know where the line is or the exact process they use to get these guys but its clear at least some are just straight bad dudes. As quoted with the 21 incidents that FBI had nothing to do with.

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My post regarding the 21 incidents lacked a comma that may have confused.

21 total incidents, 3 without FBI involvement, 18 with.

Those three without may also be suspect, the "underwear" bomber in particular, as witness' saw this stooge escorted on the plane and was ushered THROUGH security. CIA?????
 

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My post regarding the 21 incidents lacked a comma that may have confused.

21 total incidents, 3 without FBI involvement, 18 with.

Those three without may also be suspect, the "underwear" bomber in particular, as witness' saw this stooge escorted on the plane and was ushered THROUGH security. CIA?????

I forgot about that one.
 

Jeff. State

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I forgot about that one.

That's what they want us who are AWAKE to do, forget and move on. There's SOOOOO much that has been wrong how can any of us remember everything. It's truly sickening where the state of the "Nation" is.
 

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I forgot about that one.

Oh yeah, I forgot too! It was right around Christmas time a few years back. A bunch of people, including a reputable attorney and his wife, told the media they saw some guy filming the supposed terrorist the whole time. The lawyer said he saw the supposed terrorist escorted around security.
 

Jeff. State

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Oh yeah, I forgot too! It was right around Christmas time a few years back. A bunch of people, including a reputable attorney and his wife, told the media they saw some guy filming the supposed terrorist the whole time. The lawyer said he saw the supposed terrorist escorted around security.


And right after, ALL airports in the US started getting terahertz DNA shredding bodyscanners that former DHS head Michael Chertoff was lobbying for at a fee of 2.5 million dollars.
 
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