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Florida Open Carry Bill HB 517 - Passed House Criminal Justice Subcommittee
- Thread starter StogieC
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ixtow
Founder's Club Member
Title says SB
nigmalg
Regular Member
Fantastic news. I'm so proud that the Sheriff's Association didn't have an effect on them.
~*'Phoenix'*~
Regular Member
And props to Mr. Julien, a democrat who voted in favor for it! I don't know much else about him, or the rest of the committee either, but I'm always glad to see reasonable representatives in both parties. I really didn't expect him to support it.
77zach
Regular Member
That's also what Marion Hammer said and Senator Evers intimated. However, if you read the bill, it clearly says you may carry openly.
Probably an attempt to make it more palatable. If this aspect of the bill is overemphasized, I'm nervous about a future committee amending it to say only that accidental exposure is not a crime. Watch for it.
They tried that already. The word "accidental" or "unintentional" is subjective language that has no place in this law.
~*'Phoenix'*~
Regular Member
Yes... "accidental" sounds like something that can only be decided in a court - a place none of us want to end up. The only way you really can protect from truly accidental exposure is to simply make all normal exposure legal.
ixtow
Founder's Club Member
Let the dirty hippies get robbed/raped/killed.
If parents hate their own college brats this much, let them reap what they sow.
The LEOs already brought up one example of what gun bans cause, and used it an an excuse to persist in gun bans...
Herp-a-derp!
77zach
Regular Member
No chance was given to defend campus carry. It should have probably been in a separate bill/different time in all honesty. I remember when I was at UCF the attempts to keep the crime reports quiet. What the enemy says is fairly accurate; that the campuses themselves are not more dangerous than, say, a shopping mall. The incessant muggings, rapes, gang bang rapes, B&E's, kidnappings, brutal murders, etc, happened just OUTSIDE campus. What nobody for the bill got to point out was that people are necessarily disarmed AROUND campus, by virtue of the IN campus gun ban. Yes, a non-student can't get in trouble for the gun in a glovebox, but a student can. Regardless many people walk, bike, or take school shuttles. And so when the girl gets off the shuttle to her apartment, that is when the local diversity sneaks up behind her, forces into the apartment, calls his buddies, and then rapes and tortures for hours.
ixtow
Founder's Club Member
My policy - "Stick my Kel Tec in my pocket, screw those who want me dead. I'm not hurting anyone. The gun ban is. Ignore it."
I realize that refusing to sit in the back of the bus has it's risks. I'm not promoting that others should do as I do.
Kingfish
Regular Member
Ixtow, you are missing the point of "sitting in the back of the bus". Rosa Parks did what she did as an OPEN defiant act. Carrying a pistol in your pocket is in no way the same.
Senate Judiciary Committee & House Agriculture and Natural Resources Appropriations Subcommittee
Then to Senate Rules and House Judiciary Committees;
Then to the Senate and House Floors for wide debate and votes;
Then to Bill Enrolling to be sent to the Gov.