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Mag limits infringe on 2nd amendment right to be able to defend yourself

carolina guy

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Beretta92FSLady said:
I agree. I knew we would agree on something, eventually. It's all about the numbers.

For years now, I have been reading posts where individuals assert that the Second Amendment has something to do with self-defense against an attacker. The Second Amendment only refers to self-defense against the State. Basically, the Second Amendment is not affirmation to personal nor property defense.
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A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
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self-defense "against the state" is only part of it...it is also includes the ability to help defend the state.
 
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I guess some folks can't defend themselves without 30 rnd mags. How did they do it before ARs came on the scene?
 
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Some folks just can't grasp the big facts. It's all about me....liberty is being taken one step at a time. From high cap mags to less than 10, and now less than 7...Next? less than 6, and must be a revolver? Gives you a gun for self defense, isn't that ALL the 2nd A says? The cop nicely asked me to bend over for a full body cavity search, so it's okay. Right? The cop smiled when he asked for my drivers license while I was in my house, eating my FN dinner...So it's okay? We're only looking for drugs, so if you don't have any you won't mind if we look around a little?

Limits on ANYTHING, as laws written infringe on rights. Let me decide how many of anything I want or need. I don't need you, your brother or anyone telling me that, let alone make a law stating it.
 
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Red Dawg said:
Some folks just can't grasp the big facts. It's all about me....liberty is being taken one step at a time. From high cap mags to less than 10, and now less than 7...Next? less than 6, and must be a revolver? Gives you a gun for self defense, isn't that ALL the 2nd A says? The cop nicely asked me to bend over for a full body cavity search, so it's okay. Right? The cop smiled when he asked for my drivers license while I was in my house, eating my FN dinner...So it's okay? We're only looking for drugs, so if you don't have any you won't mind if we look around a little?

Limits on ANYTHING, as laws written infringe on rights. Let me decide how many of anything I want or need. I don't need you, your brother or anyone telling me that, let alone make a law stating it.
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Socialist/Statists NEVER give up...they will take a little here, a little there, and demonize those who will not surrender a little more.
 
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Beretta92FSLady said:
I only have anecdotal evidence to support a 1 round limit--it only took me one round to stop a perp.

Magazine limits will have no positive effect on murder perpetrated with a firearm. But I'm not going to act as if having a magazine limit of ten rounds is going to impact my ability to defend myself.--1 round limit will, though.
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Based on your experience, you have no data to support you requiring more than one round for self defense. So, a round limit of one should work just fine for you.
 
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One of the reasons we did so well in WW2 was our superior weapons. So yes it makes a difference, and our military has always striven for better weapons. The same should be true for civilians who are the militia.

If BL really believes that there are still manufacturers of single shot pistols. Why is it progressives never put their safety where their mouth is.
 
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PFC HALE said:
until you run out of both mags you carry defending against 2 gangstas with 30rd mags...

yeah yer logic is very sound indeed :)
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Gangbanger prefer revolvers apparently; doesn't leave behind as much evidence.

I don't recall reading of a gangbanger using a thirty-round mag in a drive-by. You give idiots like that too much credit.
 
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Red Dawg said:
Some folks just can't grasp the big facts. It's all about me....liberty is being taken one step at a time. From high cap mags to less than 10, and now less than 7...Next? less than 6, and must be a revolver? Gives you a gun for self defense, isn't that ALL the 2nd A says? The cop nicely asked me to bend over for a full body cavity search, so it's okay. Right? The cop smiled when he asked for my drivers license while I was in my house, eating my FN dinner...So it's okay? We're only looking for drugs, so if you don't have any you won't mind if we look around a little?

Limits on ANYTHING, as laws written infringe on rights. Let me decide how many of anything I want or need. I don't need you, your brother or anyone telling me that, let alone make a law stating it.
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Are you stating that a revolver isn't an effective firearm?

It is not an infringement if it is passed into Law, and not yet found not Constitutional.
 
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davidmcbeth said:
All these mag bans are premised that a lowering of rounds allowed would limit the amount of carnage one could do.

But would it not also correspond to a lowering of an ability to defend yourself as well?

And this is an infringement, yes?
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Absolutely not to both questions.

If I can't carry a larger capacity magazine, then that means I don't need a larger capacity gun. That in turn means I can carry a smaller gun. Carrying a smaller gun takes up less space and is lighter, which means I can carry many smaller guns, instead of just the one big gun I was going to carry. Having many smaller guns means that, should one fail or run out of ammo, I have another ready to take its place. I can also shoot with two hands.

So, in essence, a lower capacity magazine has increased my ability to defend myself and has bolstered my 2nd Amendment rights.

Now excuse me while I extricate the firmly placed tongue in my cheek.

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WalkingWolf said:
One of the reasons we did so well in WW2 was our superior weapons. So yes it makes a difference, and our military has always striven for better weapons. The same should be true for civilians who are the militia.

If BL really believes that there are still manufacturers of single shot pistols. Why is it progressives never put their safety where their mouth is.
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For you, my friend...your new single shot pistola: http://www.gunblast.com/FA-2008.htm
 
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