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Restoring Honor Rally on FaceBook

Bookman

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An AP story said there were tens of thousands.It was more like this here - http://news.yahoo.com/nphotos/Glenn...licid_ap_org8b2a0d36af634d7d946a8f03311fa020/ - .
...out of the 60+ pictures,of which I only looked at 18 of them,there were no pictures of minorities.I don't know if they got any of MLK's niece and the ministers on the stage.Figures! They're always trying to change history even if it's just hours old!

Check out numbers 7, 14, 15, 20, and 61; just 5 out of how many???
 

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This WAS NOT a political rally.

Amen! ;)

I was with the rally until it turned in the church lady show. If that's your thing and it makes you a better person then preach on brother. But I thought this was supposed to be about America. It pisses me off even more that the retarded media keeps equating Glen Beck's rally to the Tea Party. THEY ARE NOT THE SAME THING! Glen Beck even spoke about the tea party afterward saying they need to take a hint from him and not bring signs. Which is good and bad advice. The entire rally had so much potential but it was wasted, IMHO, in trying to appeal to a single demographic. When you make statements like, "You can only restore America through God." You've just excluded a large segment of America. If God is what you need to help restore America then I hope you go to church more than just Sunday.
 

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Glenn Beck said that when commenting on the MIAC report, I am an avid Ron Paul supporter, I loathe Glenn Beck and his ability to mislead real freedom loving people.
This I used to be a fan of his and then realized how much of a snake in the grass he really is. If you really care about freedom you will be smart enough to not follow this fool and others like him. I am Ron Paul fan and there are many fake libertarians out there like beck, people need to be careful who they put stock in and he is nothing more than a money hungry puppet.
 
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This I used to be a fan of his and then realized how much of a snake in the grass he really is. If you really care about freedom you will be smart enough to not follow this fool and others like him. I am Ron Paul fan and there are many fake libertarians out there like beck, people need to be careful who they put stock in

Ron Paul is only as real a libertarian as Glenn Beck. plus Ron is twice as nutty.
and he is nothing more than a money hungry puppet.
what is wrong with money? are you a socialist or something like that?
 

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Ron Paul is only as real a libertarian as Glenn Beck. plus Ron is twice as nutty.

what is wrong with money? are you a socialist or something like that?
I have zero problems with people being rich or making money. My problem is with him, he is a fear monger with dual messages to come off as a true libertarian or as a voice for the people.Yet he is just another snake in the grass that people follow word for word like zombies. His agenda is to put out a dual message – to discredit and polarize the true conservative movement to the benefit of the establishment he supports. His childish antics of fake crying, are doing nothing but reinforcing the stereotype that the conservative right is insane.

As for his 9/12 project that had nothing to do with uniting America and everything to do with reinforcing neo-conservative rhetoric about how we should relinquish our rights and accept the police state that our country has become. He says he is a "Libertarian at heart,” yet he has publicly supported programs and legislation that are universally abhorred by the vast majority of libertarians, such as the banker bailout and the USA Patriot Act. A list of mainline conservative hosts opposed the banker bailout, as did the majority of the American people, but he went on television and publicly supported it.

He even attacked Ron Paul and his supporters during the election campaign when it looked like the Texan Congressman might have a real chance of winning the nomination. He implied that Ron Paul supporters were domestic terrorists and should be dealt with by the U.S. Army, but later tried to side with Ron Paul supporters when the infamous and discredited MIAC report echoed his own talking point that people who support Ron Paul were dangerous.

Again he is a snake in the grass and will say anything to make a dishonest buck from hard working Americans. Many who have put real trust in him as a real conservative host who will bring their views out in the open in the mainstream. It is one thing to be a true believer of a movement and do everything you can do to give more voice to help get our country back to its roots. If he could capitalize on it and make a good living is a wonderful thing. Yet when he attacks the real conservative groups because it goes against his neo-con views and demonizes these groups, he tells honest American to not support these groups who are truly there to help this country. He is doing nothing more than helping to keep the same crooks in power. It is sad that people put so much trust in a man who is a two faced neo-con thief.

He will spit anything out to get a buck from real Americans trying to get us back to our roots. When you do things like above and make money off the lies and cheap tactics to discredit real grass roots groups is sicking. I would encourage any Glenn beck viewer to do their own research on his hypocritical points and see who he truly is and what he does and does not stand for. I used to be a big fan, bought his books and watched his show. Yet from what I see is a fox in the hen house and will has divided those who truly want this country back.
 
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I have found Beck's show interesting at times. I don't know of anyone who enjoys his show and doesn't do their own research, although the list of people who will admit to watching him is tiny. For the most part I have found him to be accurate. I fall asleep when he gets on a religious rant, but every time he does a show that centers on history I learn something or at least am reminded of something I learned once. And the learning I do because of him is when I look up something he claims that I did not previously know. I find nothing wrong with him saying things less than supportive of other conservatives. I didn't seem to get the same impression you did from the clip where he was questioning of Ron Paul and his supporters. But then I'm simply neutral on Ron Paul and I take it you are a Ron Paul supporter; I have noticed only very strong Ron Paul supporters, never a lukewarm one.
 

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I have found Beck's show interesting at times. I don't know of anyone who enjoys his show and doesn't do their own research, although the list of people who will admit to watching him is tiny. For the most part I have found him to be accurate. I fall asleep when he gets on a religious rant, but every time he does a show that centers on history I learn something or at least am reminded of something I learned once. And the learning I do because of him is when I look up something he claims that I did not previously know. I find nothing wrong with him saying things less than supportive of other conservatives. I didn't seem to get the same impression you did from the clip where he was questioning of Ron Paul and his supporters. But then I'm simply neutral on Ron Paul and I take it you are a Ron Paul supporter; I have noticed only very strong Ron Paul supporters, never a lukewarm one.

Now i do not agree with 100% of what he is saying and i don't think there is a single person that is 100% ok with everything any politician says. Yet any true libertarian believes in liberty. The core idea is simply stated, but profound and far-reaching in its implications. Libertarians believe that each person owns his own life and property, and has the right to make his own choices as to how he lives his life – as long as he simply respects the same right of others to do the same.

I am a Conservative Libertarian and we are conservative in political nature, such as foreign policy, border security, and economics while strictly interpreting the constitution as it states. We believe in free rights, liberty, and the opportunity for everyone to make it to the top. Conservative Libertarians leave it up to the individual to determine what is right and wrong for themselves, and leave it up to the states to deal with murder and unjustified actions.

Glenn beck certainly does not follow any of these values, and it is an insult from him to say he is a libertarian at heart.
 
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I am a Conservative Libertarian and we are conservative in political nature, such as foreign policy, border security, and economics while strictly interpreting the constitution as it states. We believe in free rights, liberty, and the opportunity for everyone to make it to the top. Conservative Libertarians leave it up to the individual to determine what is right and wrong for themselves, and leave it up to the states to deal with murder and unjustified actions.

Glenn beck certainly does not follow any of these values, and it is an insult from him to say he is a libertarian at heart.

I don't think that's so fair. I'd say he's a Social Conservative at heart that leans libertarian. He is still a decent enough libertarian for it not to be an insult for him to say he's libertarian at heart...
 

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Dang, and I was pretty sure the message was about restoring HONOR within ourselves mostly. IF you don't subscribe to the religious side of the honor that's totally up to you. I however have always had a problem finding something that an Atheist can swear to that he fears that his IMMORTAL soul will be end up somewhere in limbo. Just me I guess, I'm a simple man with simple beliefs. I may disagree wholeheartedly with what you believe in, but I will defend to the death your right to believe it. Anyone that thinks that the first Amendment said ANYTHING about the separation of church and state is an idiot, what it did say was that the Federal Government cannot make a "State Religion" as was the "Church of England" If you don't like Glenn Beck at least maybe you can agree with his message. Let's get back to a Constitutional Republic. And to this with a firm reliance on divine providence I swear my life, my fortune, and my scared honor.
 

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the term "separation of church and state" was from a letter written by a founder explaining the 1st amendment. 1st amendment did more than try to stop the federal govt from establishing a state religion. "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof;..." So if congress can not make a law with regard to religion or its practice then the executive branch can enforce nothing upon religion or its exercise. This was probably the best wording of any amendment. It leaves room for no sneaky reinterpretations of regulate or the like. Since most people I guess do not actually read the constitution though, "separation of church and state" seems to have replaced in peoples minds the actual text and made them think govt officials can not speak of religion and religious artifacts and such can not be seen on govt property; Obviously wrong when one examines the architecture of the founding era, which had the 1st amendment and religious art built into govt property. Moses was a favorite reference, probably because he brought written law to his people.
 

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I have zero problems with people being rich or making money. My problem is with him, he is a fear monger with dual messages to come off as a true libertarian or as a voice for the people.Yet he is just another snake in the grass that people follow word for word like zombies. His agenda is to put out a dual message – to discredit and polarize the true conservative movement to the benefit of the establishment he supports. His childish antics of fake crying, are doing nothing but reinforcing the stereotype that the conservative right is insane.

As for his 9/12 project that had nothing to do with uniting America and everything to do with reinforcing neo-conservative rhetoric about how we should relinquish our rights and accept the police state that our country has become. He says he is a "Libertarian at heart,” yet he has publicly supported programs and legislation that are universally abhorred by the vast majority of libertarians, such as the banker bailout and the USA Patriot Act. A list of mainline conservative hosts opposed the banker bailout, as did the majority of the American people, but he went on television and publicly supported it.

He even attacked Ron Paul and his supporters during the election campaign when it looked like the Texan Congressman might have a real chance of winning the nomination. He implied that Ron Paul supporters were domestic terrorists and should be dealt with by the U.S. Army, but later tried to side with Ron Paul supporters when the infamous and discredited MIAC report echoed his own talking point that people who support Ron Paul were dangerous.

Again he is a snake in the grass and will say anything to make a dishonest buck from hard working Americans. Many who have put real trust in him as a real conservative host who will bring their views out in the open in the mainstream. It is one thing to be a true believer of a movement and do everything you can do to give more voice to help get our country back to its roots. If he could capitalize on it and make a good living is a wonderful thing. Yet when he attacks the real conservative groups because it goes against his neo-con views and demonizes these groups, he tells honest American to not support these groups who are truly there to help this country. He is doing nothing more than helping to keep the same crooks in power. It is sad that people put so much trust in a man who is a two faced neo-con thief.

He will spit anything out to get a buck from real Americans trying to get us back to our roots. When you do things like above and make money off the lies and cheap tactics to discredit real grass roots groups is sicking. I would encourage any Glenn beck viewer to do their own research on his hypocritical points and see who he truly is and what he does and does not stand for. I used to be a big fan, bought his books and watched his show. Yet from what I see is a fox in the hen house and will has divided those who truly want this country back.

I think you're way out of line here, and projecting emotional outrage not rational indignation. Beck ridiculed Paul and Debra Medina, he gave his opinion and a lot more people obviously agreed than didn't. I was an early Medina supporter myself, until she wasted time and oxygen doing an interview with Alex Jones. Giving that clown the time of day is political suicide, as RP could have told her. Once the Tin Foil Hat Brigade latches on to a candidate, they're sunk. Medina should have ridiculed the 9/11 truthers. She should have renounced Jones, and told Beck she would be willing to get her message on any outlet, even CNN. That would have scored BIG with the people.

Instead she tried not to offend those lunatics, and alienated any of the lucid people who might have considered her.

Paulbots do absolutely nothing beneficial for RP either. Many of them respond to any criticism with a rabid, foaming at the mouth ferocity commonly found in moonbats defending the global warming hoax. I would vote for RP myself, but I wouldn't openly support the man. I don't want to be associated with the lunatic fringe.

I am further convinced that Alex Jones is purposefully using his mob of tin foil hat wearing sheep to marginalize the libertarian philosophy. If anyone is a "snake in the grass and will say anything to make a dishonest buck from hard working Americans" it's Alex Jones. He uses people for his own agenda, and is nothing but a loud mouth malcontent who has done more than the left could ever hope to do in driving a wedge between those of us who promote right wing values, and those outside the political world.

I can't wait to see what kind of vitriol I get in response.:lol:
 
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