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How many out their are former LEO, Military or just a regular citizen?

How many are former LEO or Military?


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SigGuy23

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Signed contract for US Navy in June 2005 at 17 the summer between my junior and senior year. Left for Basic in Aug 2006. Went to Operations Specialist A School. Assigned to USS HAWES FFG 53 Dec 2006 - Nov 2010. Did A 7 1/2 month deployment in 2007 with the Hawes in the horn of Africa(Anti Piracy ops) and The NAG(Northern Arabian Gulf) doing Oil Platform defense for Iraq's two major Oil Platforms. Deployed as an Individual Augmentee boots on ground in Iraq with Navy Provisional Detainee Battalion Five May 2008 - Apr 2009. Jan 2010 - Present I am on Shore Duty at NAS Whidbey Island. Working for Patrol And Reconnaissance Wing Ten supporting 6 P3 ORION squadrons. I am a E5.
 

since9

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remember I as a civilian out rank any military member or officer.

No, you don't. Members of the military do not forfeit their citizenship when they join. In that respect, you're co-equal in "rank" with a member of the military. More to the point, so far as you're both citizens, you're both on equal footing.

Rank isn't a civilian term, and does not apply. While the President as the military's Commander-in-Chief may have limited authority over the military, he does not "out-rank" them. He simply has authority over them. While citizens may oust a bad president, they do not have authority over him. They may simply vote him out of office.

Checks and balances in our country are circular in nature.
 

MilProGuy

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U.S. Army - 1965-67

U.S. Army Reserve - 5 years

Mississippi State Guard - currently serving
 
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usmcmustang

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Retired USMC 1966-1986... in a Pvt, out a Captain. Going through this thread reading the squabble between a dog face and an air dale about PT and living quarters made me laugh like hell.
 

slowfiveoh

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Retired USMC 1966-1986... in a Pvt, out a Captain. Going through this thread reading the squabble between a dog face and an air dale about PT and living quarters made me laugh like hell.

It was only a matter of time before some devil dog had a chuckle at our expense. Glad somebody did. I went back and read it and admit to laughing a few times. :p
 

HeroHog

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Disabled vet of the US Navy. Now totally disabled. Worked gate security at Boothill Speedy just outside of Shreveport, LA for a few years, the rest of my life was spent as a Mechanic in my earlier years and after I became initially disabled, the VA put me through college where I became a computer geek and finished up my working life as a Sr. Programmer/Analyst. During all that I was also a Classic Rock DJ on a Monroe, LA radio station (Dr Speed on LA105) and a Blues/Funk/Classic Rock drummer for several bands across North LA, North West Arkansas and South Central Virginia before settling down in Shreveport, LA. I still play the drums a little at the local blues jams and shoot a little but that is about it these days as my old body just can't take it any more.
 

DrakeZ07

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Not to be a smart-arse, but, you forgot EMS/Firefighters :p Just cuz we don't carry a sidearm on-duty, (Well, not counting the Vollies :p), doesn't mean we're not just as qualified... There's been times I wish I had a sidearm when answering some calls :/

So, Civilian?

Hmm, I wonder something, does rank truly matter in the civilian world? When I worked vollie for Menifee Co for a short time, everyone, EMS/Fire, and Sheriff always wore some sort of rank insignia, with several on either agency taking the rank literally. It was amusing to see the Sheriff wearing five General Stars on his collar. Would a person in the military have to salute or show respect to a LEO wearing such high ranking insignia?
 

MR Redenck

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I read every post on this entire thread, "something I never do"..
I want to say thanks to all of you. When I see LEO's and military men and women who share the same goals as I do, I feel much better.
Sometimes we forget the little things, and sometimes we fail the recognize who actaully stands together.
Im not either LEO or Military. Im just a person who worked his entire life and suddenly realized "Something Is Wrong"!!! At that point I decided to do something about it!!!
I cant thank you folks enough, but I can help with the "problems" we are all fighting to fix...

Thank yall,
The Mechanic
 

sbuff

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I think I saw someone post that they were "former military, but so long ago it pbly doesn't count". Well, I fit that category too! I often tell folks "I got out about 50lbs ago." Mr Reagan was President when I went in, Bush the 1st when I got out. USMC; Security Forces, Scout Swimmer, Infantry (Company Radioman, armory custodian.) Security Forces was something new at the time - formerly called "Barracks/Sea Duty". School for that had changed considerably, incorporating lots of anti-terrorism training, including 3 weeks of very intensive combat pistol (1911A1)& shotgun (Mossberg 590) training.
 

Sonora Rebel

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20 year military. 4 in 16 out.:celebrate

Served on CVA31, the old Bonnie Dick back in the late50's before most of you were born! Also 6 months in MCAS Iwakuni.

6 years LEO for three departments. One huge, one medium, one tiny, .

4 yrs teaching 4th grade. 22 yrs sole proprietor. Currently 12 years driving transit buses in large city. Great pay, great benefits, great co-workers, great supervisors, great retirement plan.

Shoot once a month, wheel guns, autoloaders, long rifles, shotguns, small calibre, large calibre. If it's got a barrel and trigger I can shoot it.

CFP state of Utah. UOC PRK

Flight Deck Ordnance (G-1 DIV) '65-'66 Tonkin Gulf aboard the 'Durty Dick': )
 

since9

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...does rank truly matter in the civilian world?

It most certainly does, but only within the agencies through which the rank is conferred. I'm not sure if PD and FD rank are transparent between agencies.

When I worked vollie for Menifee Co for a short time, everyone, EMS/Fire, and Sheriff always wore some sort of rank insignia, with severa
l on either agency taking the rank literally.

Perhaps it is transparent between agencies.

It was amusing to see the Sheriff wearing five General Stars on his collar.

Perhaps there may have been some showmanship going on, but perhaps not. There has to be someone in charge. I can easily see how a county sheriff might be that person.

Would a person in the military have to salute or show respect to a LEO wearing such high ranking insignia?

Salute? No, as it's a completely different agency. Show respect? Certainly. Authority is an interesting animal, and takes several forms. I might outrank the pilot, but only the pilot is A-coded on the mission orders, even though I as a navigator might be the mission commander, in charge of a flight of ships. In that case, I would retain authority over the mission as a whole while the pilot would retain authority over the aircraft and the crew, including myself as a part of that crew.

It might sound confusing, but in practice, professionals work things out pretty smoothly. On the rare occasion they didn't, if arguing the point at the time wouldn't amount to a hill of beans, I'd wait until mission completion before raising the issue. If crap was hitting the fan, usually the SRO on board would take the offender aside, along with some words like, "Ok, here's how this works. You have the A-code. You're in charge of this aircraft and it's crew, including me. As the mission commander, I'm in charge of you, this ship, as well as the others. Copy?"

Usually, the confusion was caused by confusion, so furthering that a touch planted doubt, which was good, as then you could quickly reinforce their true role: "You take care of the aircraft and her crew, and let me take care of the mission. Ok by you?"

Unless you clearly outrank an individual (two levels or more) butting heads in the middle of a mission is generally not a very good idea. Happens FAR more often in the movies than it happens in the military. As I said, professionals usually work things out rather quickly.
 

MilProGuy

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hello friends,
Signed contract for US Navy in June 2005 at 17 the summer between my junior and senior year. Left for Basic in Aug 2006. Went to Operations Specialist A School. Assigned to USS HAWES FFG 53 Dec 2006 - Nov 2010. Did A 7 1/2 month deployment in 2007 with the Hawes in the horn of Africa(Anti Piracy ops) and The NAG(Northern Arabian Gulf) doing Oil Platform defense for Iraq's two major Oil Platforms. Deployed as an Individual Augmentee boots on ground in Iraq with Navy Provisional Detainee Battalion Five May 2008 - Apr 2009. Jan 2010 - Present I am on Shore Duty at NAS Whidbey Island. Working for Patrol And Reconnaissance Wing Ten supporting 6 P3 ORION squadrons. I am a E5.
thanks
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GOD bless you, and thank you for being willing to actively serve during these troubled times.
 

Jonathan Hoff

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USMC Vetren Im currently a Cpl.

2007-2011 -AD / Currently on IR status

OIF - OEF
1st Battlion 4th Marines "Alpha Raiders"
8th & I Presidential Security Forces "Third Herd"
 

RPGamingGirl

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I appreciate those who have served (both military and as LEOs), because they've given me the freedom to say "none of the above."

Thanks guys (and gals)!
 

RoryRed

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Army, 4 years active, 10 national guard

I have always enjoyed shooting and miss the marksmanship team :)
 

SigGuy23

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MilProGuy
Originally Posted by webspider
hello friends,
Signed contract for US Navy in June 2005 at 17 the summer between my junior and senior year. Left for Basic in Aug 2006. Went to Operations Specialist A School. Assigned to USS HAWES FFG 53 Dec 2006 - Nov 2010. Did A 7 1/2 month deployment in 2007 with the Hawes in the horn of Africa(Anti Piracy ops) and The NAG(Northern Arabian Gulf) doing Oil Platform defense for Iraq's two major Oil Platforms. Deployed as an Individual Augmentee boots on ground in Iraq with Navy Provisional Detainee Battalion Five May 2008 - Apr 2009. Jan 2010 - Present I am on Shore Duty at NAS Whidbey Island. Working for Patrol And Reconnaissance Wing Ten supporting 6 P3 ORION squadrons. I am a E5.
thanks
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GOD bless you, and thank you for being willing to actively serve during these troubled times.

This was not originally posted by webspider. This was posted by me. The fact that someone would steal my post especially on a topic like this makes me sick.

Oh and thanks. God bless you as well. Thank you for serving when you did.
 
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