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I have been googling but cant find any good details on HB 161. Can someone explain what this is?
That bill was scraped in the house. Didn't get very far.
I have been googling but cant find any good details on HB 161. Can someone explain what this is?
That bill was scraped in the house. Didn't get very far.
There will be more posted. I have had my rights violated by the county attorney, Mike Hogan, and the sheriff of Lawrence County, Garrett Roberts. I dare not say much on this forum because Mike is already VERY pissed off because of previous post they found on here. I deleted some of my post to keep this from turning into a larger **** storm. I am going to get it touch with an attorney.
KY may post a recording of our "talk"- We may call it "Hogan's Yelling Match" as it would be appropriated.
What did the bill say? the Sheriff seemed to think it was important because he brought it up. How does this failing affect KRS 65.870 and HB 500?
Try SB 161, Glockster mentioned something about it was an SB bill. He said it had something to do with open carry. I would call it irrelevant to anything at this point. We already have 65.870, 237.110, 237.115, AGO opinion 96-40, HB 500 to take effect soon, and other things.
I was ejected out of a OPEN meeting for violating an illegal ordinance that they have been TOLD is illegal. I was going to try to fix this with them.
I was LIED to by public officials.
I was threatened arrest for OCing in the sheriff dept.
I was threatened arrest for OCing in the courthouse (not part of the court rooms or even the court annex)
I was TOLD not to come back to the courthouse with my firearm.
I was talked to like a child.
I was even ACCUSED of libel.
I feel like my rights were trampled on by public officials with NO authority to govern me in that way. If I was in violations of anything legal I would have been arrested and tried. Hogan was that visibly irate. I feel that this shows corruption in Lawrenc
Also, I wish you all of luck with your endeavors. I hope they go better than ours.
As far as 09jisaac, sorry you got treated that way. But I do respect that you are continuing the good fight and hope you dont back down. I hope you find legal relief and all the support that you will need. Sorry that you're the one taking the beating right now but I'm so glad to see our rights are being stood up for.
It wasn't just me, KYGlockster was there too. And he doesn't have much much of a dog in this fight. He was doing it as a favor to me.
I just found out that he was there too. I support you both. Wish there were more I could do to help you both with this battle.
Are you an attorney by any chance? Just kidding. Do not worry too much about our battle. You, too, are assisting in restoring rights. It is just two battles of the same war. I do not like how we can be tried with ANY law but government officials are not even held to their own laws.
Don't count on it until it happens. We thought we had the judge executive on our side (not saying we don't still) but the sheriff and CA are sticking to enforcing this illegal ordinance.
Thanks for that info. The minutes of the Fiscal Court meeting will be available from the county clerks office, the vote must have been recorded in those minutes. If you are interested, you can get those minutes. I still can't find the ordinance anywhere, but it doesn't really matter, that wording sounds familiar, I've heard it before. Its just best to have the exact wording to show people when they ask, "Well, what are they doing that is illegal? What does their ordinance say, exactly?" From what you say it sounds very similar to Bardstown's ordinance and similar to Pikeville's original ordinance. Can you get a copy of it?
Try SB 161, Glockster mentioned something about it was an SB bill. He said it had something to do with open carry. I would call it irrelevant to anything at this point. We already have 65.870, 237.110, 237.115, AGO opinion 96-40, HB 500 to take effect soon, and other things.
I was ejected out of a OPEN meeting for violating an illegal ordinance that they have been TOLD is illegal. I was going to try to fix this with them.
I was LIED to by public officials.
I was threatened arrest for OCing in the sheriff dept.
I was threatened arrest for OCing in the courthouse (not part of the court rooms or even the court annex)
I was TOLD not to come back to the courthouse with my firearm.
I was talked to like a child.
I was even ACCUSED of libel.
I feel like my rights were trampled on by public officials with NO authority to govern me in that way. If I was in violations of anything legal I would have been arrested and tried. Hogan was that visibly irate. I feel that this shows corruption in Lawrence county.
Also, I wish you all of luck with your endeavors. I hope they go better than ours.
I was reading HB 500 and changes to 65.870 and it appears in order to file a lawsuit you will have to show harm. I do not know if the harm 09jisaac received by being removed from an open meeting can be used, because it happened before the bill was in effect. I believe Ex Post Facto would shield them in this event. If it can not be used, you will have to attend another meeting, be denied admittance, then you will be able to establish harm. Your standing to file the suit will be that you are a Kentucky citizen with the right to attend any public meeting and able to do so while open carrying in accordance with Commonwealths Constitution, and your ability to exercise your right was taken by a law enforcement officer while under the color of authority. With fees and expert witness testimony available for recovery, and that pesky 42USC1983 hanging over their head, I cannot believe you will not persuade them to repair the ordinance. I am impressed with your hard work.
So are you saying that if HB 500 was already in effet this could be a diffrent story? HB 500 goes into effect in july, correct?