Hello, I'm quite new here so sorry if this topic has been discussed at some length.
My question essentially is how does the law view the act of someone attempting to remove someones personal firearm without consent , either by force or by surprise? I suppose it might depend on state, but is there a general consensus? Note, I'm not including LEO or other types of legal authority based disarming.
The reason i ask is quite obvious to most, i would think, but just to be clear. The actual attempt to take the firearm by surprise (in and of itself) is theft, but it could be argued is not a direct threat of life. However, if that person manages to take that firearm, its anyone's guess how they plan to use. It and could very potentially become an immediate threat to me and everyone around me. However, again, I'm sure someone could ague that the event is nothing more then a theft scenario until i am explicitly threatened by the individual in some fashion.
Since Minnesota still has "duty to retreat" provision, its very important to understand what kind of "reasonable force" is allowed given a situation.
Does a "gun grab" constitute the use of physical force? deadly force?
My question essentially is how does the law view the act of someone attempting to remove someones personal firearm without consent , either by force or by surprise? I suppose it might depend on state, but is there a general consensus? Note, I'm not including LEO or other types of legal authority based disarming.
The reason i ask is quite obvious to most, i would think, but just to be clear. The actual attempt to take the firearm by surprise (in and of itself) is theft, but it could be argued is not a direct threat of life. However, if that person manages to take that firearm, its anyone's guess how they plan to use. It and could very potentially become an immediate threat to me and everyone around me. However, again, I'm sure someone could ague that the event is nothing more then a theft scenario until i am explicitly threatened by the individual in some fashion.
Since Minnesota still has "duty to retreat" provision, its very important to understand what kind of "reasonable force" is allowed given a situation.
Does a "gun grab" constitute the use of physical force? deadly force?