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Are TSA officers "Law Enforcement"?

RetiredOC

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Excellent topic, and one that should elicit many responses from our knowledgeable members and, hopefully, at the conclusion of the thread we will all come away as better informed 2A citizens.

*stand up and start slow clap*
What an amazing post.

This is an easy one for all the reasons you described in the original post. TSA are not sworn police officers, they don't carry guns, they really don't have any direct authority over you. My gun on my person is not their business.

sent from my phone, excuse my grammar/spelling errors
 

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In short. No. They are not law enforcement. They are a government agency with no actual authority other than screening your ****.
 

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NewZealandAmerican

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As a side note, I have thought all along that the supreme law enforcement authority within a state is the county sheriff and that his power and authority trumps that of even any federal law enforcement agency. Is this not the case?

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Yes it is true, A sheriff honoring his oath can and would be able to detain, arrest or even use deadly force against any federal agent who comes into his county and violates the rights of the people in his county, up to and including the president of the USA. A sheriff can kick any fed out of his county and make them require his permission to enter his county.


The County Sheriff really does have more power and authority than even the president of the united States. We really get tell the Feds to kiss off and get out of our counties and states! Lets inform all of our 3000 Sheriffs across America who are not aware of their proper authority, duty and obligations to protect the un-alieanable rights of the people in their county. Wyoming Sheriffs Told Federal BATF & IRS Agents To Abide By The Constitution Or Face Immediate Arres
politicalvelcraft.orgWyoming Sheriffs Put Feds In Their Place. Immediately Below Is The Internet Embellishment Followed By How It Really Went Down! Here’s one the mainstream media isn’t going to tell you:...
 
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sure about that?

With the announcements that TSA is now doing checkpoints on public highways in TN...

...another thread where someone happened upon a TSA checkpoint...

From http://blog.tsa.gov/2011/10/myth-buster-tsa-not-setting-up.html "Depending on what inaccurate blog post you may have read, you would think that TSA has checkpoints set up all across Tennessee’s highways. That’s just simply not the case."

"TSA officers did not physically screen drivers during this exercise as erroneously reported. The actual vehicle inspections were conducted by the Tennessee State Highway Patrol just the same as they are done every day."
 
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From http://blog.tsa.gov/2011/10/myth-buster-tsa-not-setting-up.html "Depending on what inaccurate blog post you may have read, you would think that TSA has checkpoints set up all across Tennessee’s highways. That’s just simply not the case."

"TSA officers did not physically screen drivers during this exercise as erroneously reported. The actual vehicle inspections were conducted by the Tennessee State Highway Patrol just the same as they are done every day."


So the TSA is essentially saying that the TN SHP has ALWAYS been a fascist organization, running a de-facto police state, and that they have ALWAYS been doing random "security checkpoints" in TN, but the TSA just recently decided to hang out at their little parties because it looked like fun?...

Yeah, I believe that. TN SHP has ALWAYS done these checkpoints--"every day"--and they have NOTHING to do with influence, threats, or strong-arm tactics from the TSA to use their state as a "beta test"...
 

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TN SHP has ALWAYS done these checkpoints--"every day"--and they have NOTHING to do with influence, threats, or strong-arm tactics from the TSA to use their state as a "beta test"...

Now you've got it. Except that you're being facetious, so you're not really getting it...

Not everything in life is a walking conspiracy, Dreamer. In fact, most things in life are not.
 
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Yes it is true, A sheriff honoring his oath can and would be able to detain, arrest or even use deadly force against any federal agent who comes into his county and violates the rights of the people in his county, up to and including the president of the USA. A sheriff can kick any fed out of his county and make them require his permission to enter his county.


The County Sheriff really does have more power and authority than even the president of the united States. We really get tell the Feds to kiss off and get out of our counties and states! Lets inform all of our 3000 Sheriffs across America who are not aware of their proper authority, duty and obligations to protect the un-alieanable rights of the people in their county. Wyoming Sheriffs Told Federal BATF & IRS Agents To Abide By The Constitution Or Face Immediate Arres
politicalvelcraft.orgWyoming Sheriffs Put Feds In Their Place. Immediately Below Is The Internet Embellishment Followed By How It Really Went Down! Here’s one the mainstream media isn’t going to tell you:...

Thanks for the clarification. I thought this was the case.
 

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Now you've got it. Except that you're being facetious, so you're not really getting it...

Not everything in life is a walking conspiracy, Dreamer. In fact, most things in life are not.


Knowing that your denial will only be broken when you and people like you are finally marched onto the trains is cold comfort.

But it shall come to that. And I hope you remember that some of us warned y'all about decades before it happened. I also hope you realize that we've been right all along while you still have the opportunity to avoid the camps or the ditches...


Go read some Robert Paxton...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Paxton
 

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Conspiracy

Now THIS would make a great bumper sticker!

CONSPIRACY: When 2 or more persons unite to deprive by force, to take or violate the RIGHTS of another individual or group of people. It doesn't matter who does it or why, just the fact that it is a conspiracy fact and not a conspiracy theory.[video=youtube;Ei0ch-y7r5c]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ei0ch-y7r5c[/video]
 

Sky1

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This reminds me of this time when me and a couple friends were talking outside the door of a nightclub when three women walked up and handed us their drivers license.

Um, okay. :confused:

People don't know who is real authority, nor do they care
 

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True face of the us politics

rogues steal the government office. To expand their power they created false flag terror attack. (such like okc bombing, 911 attack) they got what they want with the passing through of patriot act.

Rogues like to bully people with their power. They peep, eavesdrop, track people. They search, arrest and murder people.

To achieve this they developed the false flag terror attack to intimidate the public. Take the advantage of public's panic to squeeze more money and power from them.

Those villains have no other abilities but to persecute people. The ruling class want to create a humble and obeydient majority. They take away you civil rights by "check your i.d." in arizona, and insult and humiliate you by "see through screen" and "pat down" in airport. See, i supervise you. I can see through you and grope you. If you dare to resist, there's fine and jail waiting for you. Those incompetent people won't add any treasure to the society but enjoy "security jobs" supported by your taxed money.

Step by step, they make it a totalitarian country.
 

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"Are TSA officers "Law Enforcement"? "

Well sure they are...

So were the Stazi.

This extra constitutional government we live under will push too far one day soon. The difference is that the Stazi faced a people devoid of firearms and recent military experience. Not so here.
 

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According to the TSA website, they conducted a two day training excercise in which they accompanied TN SHP officers, but it was TN SHP officers that were doing the stops, so if they ever conduct another such excercise you would have a duty to inform because you would be dealing with a TN SHP officer and not the TSA agents who were just basically doing a ride-along.

http://blog.tsa.gov/2011/10/myth-buster-tsa-not-setting-up.html

Regardless, it's better to inform when you don't have the duty to, than to fail to inform when you do have the duty to... or put another way, better safe than sorry.
 
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“Anyone who trades liberty for security deserves neither liberty nor security”

Does anyone care to answer who authored the above quote?

The TSA has got to go, And yes it is the County Sheriff's job to supervise federal enforcement and protect that county's citizens from having their rights violated by Fed's. To the best of my knowledge, that is still the case, yet it is ignored by many.

When are we going to say "Enough is Enough" and put an end to this crap being perpetrated by our runaway tyrannical government?
 

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Does anyone care to answer who authored the above quote?

The TSA has got to go, And yes it is the County Sheriff's job to supervise federal enforcement and protect that county's citizens from having their rights violated by Fed's. To the best of my knowledge, that is still the case, yet it is ignored by many.

When are we going to say "Enough is Enough" and put an end to this crap being perpetrated by our runaway tyrannical government?

It will put an end to itself. If you go back and look over past administrations, supreme court rulings, etc, you will see that the wrongdoing always gets straightened out. My criminal justice professor said it best, he likened the system to a pendulum. When one side gets to far out of hand, the system works to bring it back. The constitution has been attacked numerous times since we have become a country, and every time it has regained control. Our constitution is a very strong document, and it will survive this administration and the socialist elites just like it always has! Even if it gets to the point where we have to take back our country with force, our constitution was brought to be for that very reason, and it will continue to serve this country for years to come.
 
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