Jeff Hayes
Regular Member
I am not paranoid, I have the gun.
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I am not paranoid, I have the gun.
lost hold of my pants, and my sidearm fell out of the holster... there were people in each stall beside me. I said, "sorry about that." No one said anything.
LOL!!!!!
Thanks for the laugh.
I mean, really, what _can_ you say when a gun appears on the floor of the stall next to you?
michigander allowed his tokarev to fall as he lowered his pants,,,
he took a 7.62X25 thru the leg,,,into the wall.
his gun has a firing pin block, shouldnt be able to fire, but his did.
I cope by using a tree, I can do a full 360 sweep around and keep my situation awareness full on.
I cope by using a tree, I can do a full 360 sweep around and keep my situation awareness full on.
This is a sound tactic, but how do you deal with it when you have to squat?
You could legally record in the bathroom when being questioned by a cop. He is conducting official business, and there is no longer an expectation of privacy.
Please be aware of the applicable laws in your respective State. I have no idea what the recording laws are in other States but in Michigan the law requires the consent of everyone when recording in a place where there is an entitlement to privacy. And, of all places, a bathroom most certainly involves an entitlement to privacy!!
Did you by chance notice that this exchange is taking place in the Washington State "branch" of the Forum?
We appreciate the input on Michigan Law but most people here are talking about incidents and encounters right here in our State.
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Thats why if I have to cop a squat and unload, I put my pistol in the crouch of my skivies, to much wieght when you undo the belt, Besides I dont like the idea of anything I own but the bottoms of my shoes touching the floor in johns. There are too many who have a major problem hitting that 12 inch hole (nasty B@$tards). I reholster as I'm getting up and yarding my drawers back up.
metalhead: you make it sound like that is a BAD thing? LMFAO!!!
Frankly, if I had a recorder, I wouldn't give a crap about legal or not. If it came down to "my nuggets in the crusher" vs a false report by a police officer, I'd take my chances. If nothing else the tape would give me leverage with an internal affairs investigation into the officer. BTW, do you think all THEIR tapes are legally obtained? If you do, the Brooklyn Bridge is on the market again and you might like to buy it.
RCW 9.73.030 (3) Where consent by all parties is needed pursuant to this chapter, consent shall be considered obtained whenever one party has announced to all other parties engaged in the communication or conversation, in any reasonably effective manner, that such communication or conversation is about to be recorded or transmitted: PROVIDED, That if the conversation is to be recorded that said announcement shall also be recorded.
RCW 9.73.030 (2) Notwithstanding subsection (1) of this section, wire communications or conversations (a) of an emergency nature, such as the reporting of a fire, medical emergency, crime, or disaster, or (b) which convey threats of extortion, blackmail, bodily harm, or other unlawful requests or demands, or (c) which occur anonymously or repeatedly or at an extremely inconvenient hour, or (d) which relate to communications by a hostage holder or barricaded person as defined in RCW 70.85.100, whether or not conversation ensues, may be recorded with the consent of one party to the conversation.
Illegally made recordings are inadmissible in court, except as evidence to try you.
Bikenut, it is just that state laws on recording communications/conversations vary so much state-to-state, that comments based on another states requirements can often be very misleading.
Here is Washington state, the law states in part...
If one is standing at the pissoir and a LEO starts asking questions, simply stating that you will be recording the conversation within earshot of other occupants, should cover you for them, too, unless they object in a timely manner.
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In another potentially interesting area...
Recording for your protection against potentially unlawful requests or demands by the officer, however, might possibly be covered by
Please remember, IANAL!
...or at an extremely inconvenient hour,
...or at an extremely inconvenient hour,
If THIS doesn't cover standing at the pisser with yer junk in yer hands, I don't know what does!!