LaBomba said:
I believe that the State Fair incident is cause to condemn the individuals who rioted.
Yep.
Not, as Glock34 does, the entire City of Milwaukee, or all Blacks, or the Milwaukee Chief of Police.
Across the country ALL of these wilding mobs have been black people, & mostly teens.
Somewhere along the line, we've got to quit being scared to point that out.
If I'm approached by a gang, I don't care what they look like (unless they're all teens wearing Scout uniforms) I'm going to be a bit concerned for my well-being.
Having read news articles from across the country about mobs just like this (although this does seem to be the largest), including ones about black teens behaving badly
right here in MKE, seeing a mob of black teens approaching will make me even more concerned for my well-being.
I don't like that these animals (thugs, criminals, ruffians, hooligans, snot-nosed ill-behaved mannerless brats, whatever you want to call them) have led me to have that response.
But I try to be realistic.
Being approached by such a mob, or seeing one heading my way, I'd go sideways.
Near the Fair, go onto a residential street, get onto someone's porch, hunker down & call 911.
Gunslinger said:
Funny thing, they were all black and only attacked whites.
They should be charged with a hate crime and sentenced appropriately.
Agreed. If something less happens, it's racism.
Read the statements to the news from various victims - the thugs looked into cars & passed over the ones w/ black people.
AaronS said:
I would love to see the "take" on this from WAVE...
Have Gun - Will Carry said:
"Oh, it's a good thing there were no guns involved, <slobber slobber>. Can you just IMAGINE how much more dangerous it would have been if there were GUNS there??? <drool, drool> The mere presence of those horrid things would have made it INEVITABLE that people would have been shot and killed! <slobber, drool, puke> See, we're so much SAFER without more guns, blah, blah, blah!"
LOL Pretty much what I was thinking.
And in the comments on the 620TMJ article someone said pretty much the same thing.
"Oh, dear, what would happen if they attacked someone who was carrying?!
Then there would be a serious problem."
:banghead:
I pointed out that there would be no more problem, at least from that thug, and asked the person to explain how being attacked/beaten by a mob was NOT a serious problem.
Idiot.
xd40 neenah said:
These incidents are not just one race nor are they only in certain areas.
These could happen anywhere groups congregate.
AFAIK, everyone I've seen in news video or still pictures committing these wilding mob crimes has been black.
what are some ideas for if we are caught in a rough situation like this?
Go sideways (perpendicular). Don't run in a straight line away from them along the same street.
Drive over sidewalks if you have to to get away. (Motorcycles are esp. good for this.)
Don't be shy about going onto someone's porch, or maybe into their back yard, esp. if there's someone there.
If you can't get away, get your back to something so they can't get behind you. Hope you're with someone who can help w/ defense.
And if I were caught in that mob, in the car or afoot, I would have the pistol in hand (or ready to pick up).
Harder on the bike - if I have time to grab the gun, I can probably ride away.
ETA: What are the bans against tazers? Does a 'no firearms' mean 'no weapons'?
My reading of the plain English words says that if the sign says "no firearms" you can't have a firearm.
If it says "no concealed weapons", everything must be visible.
If it says "no weapons", you must be a victim.
If someone goes to the Fair, please take notes about what their sign(s) on the gates say.
ETA: Aren't there street cameras around there? And what if they took busses to get back to the inner city (it's a long walk)? There should be video of their faces, just like in Riverwest.