georg jetson
Regular Member
No, you don't. Your posts have repeatedly demonstrated the fact that you understand the limitations of what you assume or perceive to be science.
Here's a "you say I say" type argument... waste of time...
No, you don't. Your posts have repeatedly demonstrated the fact that you understand the limitations of what you assume or perceive to be science.
Sources for why you shouldn't use physical punishment to induce compliance:
http://www.apsa.org/About_APsaA/Position_Statements/Physical_Punishment.aspx
http://www.nctsnet.org/nctsn_assets/pdfs/PhysicalPunishment_Factsheet.pdf
http://pediatrics.aappublications.org/content/117/6/2055.full
http://psychcentral.com/news/2011/0...-impair-childs-cognitive-functions/28087.html
I can go on, but the fact is, you're advocating something not because it's effective or beneficial, but likely because it was what was done to you.
I will bookmark this post. It gives links to EXCELLENT examples of how psuedo science is used to change public opinion... IOW - propaganda.
My parents made their share of mistakes and in an attempt to do better, I educated myself on the issue of parental responsibilites when I became a dad. That still didn't ensure that I was perfect.
I'm advocating it because my country suffers from delusion reinforced by psuedo science.
http://www.reddit.com/r/WTF/comments/lxa4t/read_now_judge_william_adams_abused_daughter/
If true, I hope he gets what's coming to him.
Well, if they weren't family, then it would be assault if the "guy" didn't have the parents consent.
His dog is PRIVATE property. It's none of the government's business what he does with that dog. Of course that is NOT the reality these days. People are just fighting to give their liberties away so they can get into their neighbor's business.
Do you have the ability to show how this is "psuedo [sic] science"? Seriously, you call the citations crap, despite the fact they are supported by the vast, overwhelming majority of medical and child practitioners. In doing so, though, you utterly fail to provide your own counter citations, studies, or evidence. If it is pseudoscience, you should be able to show how, right?
Do you have the ability to show how this is "psuedo [sic] science"? Seriously, you call the citations crap, despite the fact they are supported by the vast, overwhelming majority of medical and child practitioners. In doing so, though, you utterly fail to provide your own counter citations, studies, or evidence. If it is pseudoscience, you should be able to show how, right?
It's clear that some people 'get their rocks off' from beating a child and Jetson is one of them.
I wonder how he'd like to stand in and take one of those beatings and verbal abuses from a big hairy guy twice his size just to see what it's like?
I didn't realize that parents could give permission for assault? Oh wait they can't. If you saw someone getting beat in the street would you try to help in any way or ask if that was their kid?
So Vick should not have had anything done for operating a dog fighting ring? Internet videos of cats being crushed and animals tortured are ok because they are property?
SNIP.
All my opinion of course and based on the empirical evidence of myself which; I might add, holds far greater weight for me than other things.
Alright Georg, since you said it was a case by case basis as to who a child should tell if they are being abused, I will give you a scenario. You tell us what the child should do.
A girl, 8 years old is being sexually abused by her father. The father is also beating the mother who is too afraid to do anything. There is no family in the area and the young girl has no idea how to contact he out-of-state family. The only time the girl gets out of the house is when she goes to public school. Friends are not allowed at the house. Who does she tell?
By the way, I get your argument that the government should stay of o our family lives. But in the above situation who will intervene, if not some form of government authority?
His dog is PRIVATE property. It's none of the government's business what he does with that dog. Of course that is NOT the reality these days. People are just fighting to give their liberties away so they can get into their neighbor's business.
You present a difficult and sad scenario. It is true that instances like this may happen. However, it is not enough of a reason for a free society to have a government intervene in a parent's RIGHT to discipline their children.
Keep in mind that gun control advocates use similar emotional arguments against the 2A. Just put it in terms we're all familiar with...
The same girl finds her father's handgun and kills herself... the answer is to ban handguns right?? Of course not... Whatever the solution to your hypothetical... it is most certainly NOT found in government.
Also, keep this in mind. It is the creator from which we derive out rights. The CREATOR decided to give parents their children without a license or mandatory training. The issue of parents abusing their authority over their children is between them and their creator. It is inescapable that this will continue to happen. All we do by giving government the power to intervene is to give it the power to control our family and in essence totally control us. By allowing the state into the family, you're supporting "big brother knows best".
Despite that long explanation and your desire to inject religion into every thread, you never actually answered my question.
Who does the little girl tell???
Could I get your opinion on this issue...
Should the governmnet be allowed to interfere in family matters such as discipline?
Yes I did answer the question. The answer is that every circumstance does not have an answer. We live in an imperfect world. I also said that the answer is most certainly NOT government intervention.
Bringing up the Creator is NOT interjecting religion. It is a fact that's where our rights are derrived.