After bouncing like a ping pong ball for the last few months (PA & NC for business), I'm finally settled (as best I could be) here in VA.
Approximately 3 weeks ago, I officially became a VA resident! So of course after doing the DMV disaster, I popped over to the circuit court for my conceal permit. I'll copy/paste my encounter from my Facebook notes entitled "Three Weeks."
THREE WEEKS
Friday, August 18, 2012 ·
Today is 3 weeks since I've dropped off my application for a resident VA CCW (LTCF).
In 2008, Randy (mtbkski on the forum) suggested to Tony F (TonyF on the forum) of the FIRE institute holding a handgun 101 class for couples. Being I wasn't in a couple situation, I took the class with my son James. Besides live fire, the class included field stripping, cleaning as well as clearing jams and stovepipes. Very very informative. The class went far beyond my expectations of a handgun 101 course. I even brought along my AR for some lunchtime fun for everyone. :~)))
Here in VA the requirements for a CCW (LTCF) are a bit different than those in PA. Here in VA, you don't need personal references however, you do need proof of competency with a handgun.
I picked up the application at the circuit court house and figured I was golden. After all, I did complete an accredited course.......right?
Oh, and I just want to add this for my PA friends: VA courthouses don't have lockers for handguns, they are not allowed on the premisses, not at all, never. Neither are knives or cellphones allowed.
I fill out the short application an attach a copy of my FIRE institute letter explaining everything that was taught in the class including 5-6 hours of live fire on the range. I was pretty excited, my class at FIRE far exceeded the requirements necessary for a VA CCW. I was golden, yippee!
I go up to the woman who accepts applications with all my info (application, DL, letter, 50 bucks).
She looks through the paperwork and says:
"Where is your competency with a handgun certificate?"
Um, right here.
"FIRE institute, where is that?"
Pittsburgh.
"Pittsburgh, is that Pennsylvania? (OMFG!!!) That isn't good here in VA."
Why isn't it good here? It far exceeds VA's requirements for the license.
"Its from a different state and your drivers license states that you got it yesterday. I don't think you have it long enough."
Ma'am, VA is a shall issue state and as long as I pass the background check........
"A what?"
Shall issue state.
"A what? What is that?"
Nevermind.
Ok, so now, I'm starting to get angry, trying desperately to hold tight my Brooklyn tongue. After all, I did swear on my application that I wasn't crazy. I also figured that if I let loose on this tight assed biotch, I'd never get a license. I decided that logic might be a better fit rather than sarcastic charm.
Ma'am, the state of VA gives out non resident licenses to those that have a current valid license from their home state. There are many states which do not require a competency with a handgun certificate and VA will still issue a non resident license. VA is a shall issue state.
"Oh, that isn't us, that is the state police who issue non resident permits. You'll have to take that up with them."
Ok, now I'm getting heated. I can feel my carotid artery starting to throb. This &%^*# has grated her stupidity on my last nerve! Breathe, Michele, breathe!
Ma'am, I could take a course in cyberspace for 20 bucks and get a printable certificate stating that I'm competent with a handgun. VA accepts an online course as valid as opposed to a live course by an accredited institution? Ma'am, taking an online course only proves I've got a VISA card and I'm pretty damn competent with a mouse.
Allot of blinking going on now.......... I thought about suggesting Visine.......:/
"We have 45 days to respond." So, really, when will I get mine? "Figure 3 - 3 1/2 weeks."
UGH! So here it is early Wednesday morning, and still no license. I'm thinking this might not turn out well after all.