I wasnt trying to start an argument here! Its just very unclear and i was VERY misinformed by a LEO on some of the laws regarding to and prior to OC. Im not bashing him in anyway he is very pro gun and leiniant with his inturpretation of the actual law. He clearly did not know the law to the T. Which i found out later after reading some links, posts, and comments members have left here. It seems LEOs as most of us do have a hard time fully grasping the proper meaning of each law and circumstance. Ask 20 diff people wether they are LEO or not and get 20 diff answers. This is a very informative site for sure!