509rifas
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GS7VGE8l4pM
I was stopped a couple days ago while riding my bike on the sidewalk without the light on (the legal technicalities are explained in the video) and I had what for me was a very unusual LEO stop.
First of all, lights are not required on the sidewalk, and I told the officer that (actually read it off of a paper when he asked for ID.)
So of course he ordered "come with me" and told me to put my hands on the car and asked if I had weapons. I answered in the affirmative, and he took them but didn't handcuff me. Even after I told him I didn't have ID and wouldn't tell him who I was, he didn't handcuff me (that usually happens when I do that.) He called me a jackass though.
But even as I was arguing with him over fine points of title 46 and why I didn't have to do this or that, I was never restrained and he actually let me pull my papers out and read them and show them to him, which he actually looked and read. A lot of the quiet parts of the video are when he was reading the papers I gave him. Even when he disagreed about the differences of state preemption in title 46 (RCW46.08.020 ..."no local authority shall enact or enforce any law, ordinance, rule or regulation in conflict with the provisions of this title except and unless expressly authorized by law to do so and any laws, ordinances, rules or regulations in conflict with the provisions of this title are hereby declared to be invalid and of no effect") and I basically challenged him to cite me, he declined. He told me I "intrigued" him, and that he was learning something.
All in all, it was a relatively positive experience. Other instances when I've been detained by my local PD haven't gone so well. (i have video of several other detentions that didn't go well that I haven't put on youtube).
I was stopped a couple days ago while riding my bike on the sidewalk without the light on (the legal technicalities are explained in the video) and I had what for me was a very unusual LEO stop.
First of all, lights are not required on the sidewalk, and I told the officer that (actually read it off of a paper when he asked for ID.)
So of course he ordered "come with me" and told me to put my hands on the car and asked if I had weapons. I answered in the affirmative, and he took them but didn't handcuff me. Even after I told him I didn't have ID and wouldn't tell him who I was, he didn't handcuff me (that usually happens when I do that.) He called me a jackass though.
But even as I was arguing with him over fine points of title 46 and why I didn't have to do this or that, I was never restrained and he actually let me pull my papers out and read them and show them to him, which he actually looked and read. A lot of the quiet parts of the video are when he was reading the papers I gave him. Even when he disagreed about the differences of state preemption in title 46 (RCW46.08.020 ..."no local authority shall enact or enforce any law, ordinance, rule or regulation in conflict with the provisions of this title except and unless expressly authorized by law to do so and any laws, ordinances, rules or regulations in conflict with the provisions of this title are hereby declared to be invalid and of no effect") and I basically challenged him to cite me, he declined. He told me I "intrigued" him, and that he was learning something.
All in all, it was a relatively positive experience. Other instances when I've been detained by my local PD haven't gone so well. (i have video of several other detentions that didn't go well that I haven't put on youtube).
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