sudden valley gunner
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Darn guess this bikes compartment would fail scrutiny, or maybe not since it isn't "secret" you can see it. Which raises an interesting question. If a compartment is visible it would no longer be secret, right?
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Secret Compartment in auto ILLEGAL - man arrested
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countryclubjoe
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Darn guess this bikes compartment would fail scrutiny, or maybe not since it isn't "secret" you can see it. Which raises an interesting question. If a compartment is visible it would no longer be secret, right?
Hi Folks
Hi SVG-- You know how to travel my friend! Do you have a license to travel on that bike? LOL . Be careful you don't get stopped for suspect DUI..
Back on point for a second... Another issue I could see happening is this; Compartments that come standard in a vehicle IE, glove compartment, arm rest compartment that all LAC have in their vehicles could be considered by LEA as a compartment for "HIDING SECRET COMPARTMENTS" and therefore subject to a search... I could see it now, Officer Primus stops LAC, Officer Primus to LAC, let me see your papers. LAC complies, Officer Primus then ask citizen, do you have any compartments in your vehicle, LAC what do you mean by compartments? OP, you know glove box, arm rest, sun visors, you know, LAC, yes, OP ok I need to search those compartments to see if your hiding any "SECRET COMPARTMENTS"...
Talk about a slippery slope
Thank you and best regards,
CCJ
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Citizen
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I dunno. That beverage carrier don't look factory stock to me.
But, check out that swell horn! And, that kickstand!
But, check out that swell horn! And, that kickstand!
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Ah good catch, couldn't have a kickstand that would lean your bar!
CCJ, You make some good points. I bet the catch word would be "suspicious".
CCJ, You make some good points. I bet the catch word would be "suspicious".
rscottie
Regular Member
People talk about ignorance of the law, what about ignorance that the compartment exists?
The law specifically grants used car dealers an exemption from having to notify car buyers that the vehicle has a hidden secret compartment.
Considering how complex the steps are to get in to the better made compartments, someone could be driving a used vehicle and not even be aware it has a hidden compartment.
Imagine granny getting locked up because they found an illegal compartment?
This law is wrong and should be nullified.
The law specifically grants used car dealers an exemption from having to notify car buyers that the vehicle has a hidden secret compartment.
Considering how complex the steps are to get in to the better made compartments, someone could be driving a used vehicle and not even be aware it has a hidden compartment.
Imagine granny getting locked up because they found an illegal compartment?
This law is wrong and should be nullified.
eye95
Well-known member
The law already requires knowledge of the compartment and its use to traffic in contraband.
davidmcbeth
Banned
Darn guess this bikes compartment would fail scrutiny, or maybe not since it isn't "secret" you can see it. Which raises an interesting question. If a compartment is visible it would no longer be secret, right?
Bikes goes what....1 mile a day on 1 liter of alcohol? not good gas mileage ...
MyWifeSaidYes
Regular Member
So, IF the hidden compartment DOES NOT contain at least VISIBLE residue of drugs, and DOES NOT contain valuables, electronics or firearms, the prosecutor must prove INTENT.
Right?
It was a very persuasive video presentation by the folks at Ohioans for Concealed Carry that got "drug residue" changed to "VISIBLE drug residue".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eCDvHxViWs0
Yes, this law is bad and, hopefully, someone will fight it and not just settle.
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
I got to thinking about the claim made the arrest and suspicion was justified "because they found a wire".
I had wires that went back to the "secret compartment" in my Durango, because the previous owner had a subwoofer back there. I never removed the wires. All those claims are balderdash.
I had wires that went back to the "secret compartment" in my Durango, because the previous owner had a subwoofer back there. I never removed the wires. All those claims are balderdash.
eye95
Well-known member
The law is bad because it criminalizes behavior related to the behavior they really want to stop. They want to stop the smuggling of contraband, so they make a law against a tool that could be used for the activity they want to stop, but that could also be used for perfectly innocent activities. Sound familiar?
MyWifeSaidYes
Regular Member
eye95
Well-known member
ARE YOU CALLING ME A TOOL? Oh, wait...you mean guns, right?
No, I meant that you are a tool!
MyWifeSaidYes
Regular Member
Okay. Thanks for clearing that up!
If I put a sign on my car that says, "This vehicle contains a hidden compartment", think I'll get any interest from LEO's?
If I put a sign on my car that says, "This vehicle contains a hidden compartment", think I'll get any interest from LEO's?
eye95
Well-known member
Well, you'll be establishing the knowledge element of the crime!
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carolina guy
Regular Member
It isn't really a secret compartment anymore, and the police know it is inside the vehicle, so not really hidden--just not immediately visible.
eye95
Well-known member
"Secret" is not an element. "Hidden" is.
carolina guy
Regular Member
Fair enough.
It isn't really hidden anymore, even if it is not visible. Minus RAS, they would have no "need" to look further to establish any of the other "elements" such as the intent to transport controlled substances.Citizen
Founder's Club Member
Trust a carpenter to notice the ramifications of something out-of-plumb.
Of course, for myself, I always have trouble with people leaning the bar on me. And, the floor. And, the walls...
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davidmcbeth
Banned
I have lots of odd, small hidden compartments in my vehicle ... an I sometime had "drugs" in them ... now I'm screwed I guess ..
Better change the registration to the wife's name huh?
Better change the registration to the wife's name huh?
sudden valley gunner
Regular Member
Trust a carpenter to notice the ramifications of something out-of-plumb.
Of course, for myself, I always have trouble with people leaning the bar on me. And, the floor. And, the walls...
Haha, don't forget the urinal......