since9
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Good info, thanks, didn't know the statistics were indeed that bad. :shocker:
Indeed. The criminally insane mass shooters are most certainly targeting gun-free zones, areas where law-abiding citizens are disarmed.
Good info, thanks, didn't know the statistics were indeed that bad. :shocker:
The Fallacy of Gun Free Zones keeps marching on...
I know this is an older thread but I stumbled across it. Just a couple of thoughts on this link and other posts. I have OC'd in my local Target with never even a blink. The headline states Target's "ban" which is not a ban just a request as stated in other posts and three of the four examples happened in the parking lot not in the stores. It also does not mention whether or not those victims where licensed carriers and that they had to unarm to go shopping further making them a victim.
"This is a complicated issue, but it boils down to a simple belief: Bringing firearms to Target creates an environment that is at odds with the family-friendly shopping and work experience we strive to create."
Indeed. The criminally insane mass shooters are most certainly targeting gun-free zones, areas where law-abiding citizens are disarmed.
Just FYI they do not allow the ringers or the TFT boxes but instead give a lump sum donation to these organizations. This has to do with an issue that happened years ago with another donation group causing an issue at a store.In addition to all these points, we need to remember esp. with the Christmas season approaching, that some Target stores (not sure if all do or is "corp. policy") prohibit both the Salvation Army kettle bell-ringers AND the "Toys For Tots" people from setting up in front of their stores.
They are not only against our Constitutional rights, they are grinches.
Treat them accordingly.
Just FYI they do not allow the ringers or the TFT boxes but instead give a lump sum donation to these organizations. This has to do with an issue that happened years ago with another donation group causing an issue at a store.
BTW I did work for Target for two years and this was discussed in depth with team members.
I am torn on this. In the past I would not give any business my money that did not allow guns. BUT Target still allows guns, they made a waffling statement. Caving to that statement gives more power to the Mad Women. I did not shop in Target in the past, don't look to now, but if I did I would still open carry in spite of mad moms. If Target did not want the OC business they would have banned guns, and posted signs, they straddled a fence instead. I would not cut a business off for straddling the fence.
Question.
In some jurisdictions, a request (by appropriate management staff) to exit the premises if carrying is enough - if refused - to be charged with trespassing. Would then such a "public request" justify such a charge against an OC'er in a Target?
Question.
In some jurisdictions, a request (by appropriate management staff) to exit the premises if carrying is enough - if refused - to be charged with trespassing. Would then such a "public request" justify such a charge against an OC'er in a Target?
I don't know about this specific incident but Target builds a store they actually buy the property not least like most chain stores. This means any property that is in their boundaries (I.e. sidewalks, parking lots etc.) belongs to them and is not considered public property.A few years back I personally witnessed a Target GM kick a Salvation Army bell ringer off of a public sidewalk in the name of company policy (Grand Junction Colorado/Mesa Mall about '99 or so). After that I will not return. My money spends just as well elsewhere, and I can get the very same stuff (if not cheaper).