77zach
Regular Member
If we're being honest, most of us know the courts will not recognize our right to carry a firearm. The most Norman vs State will give us is a license "issued as a matter of right", which is a good and worthwhile result! Our hope for OC lies in the legislature.
I know it's silly and weird and extreme to actually do something for your rights but I've written my own licensed OC bill and will present it to my Republican state senator, in person (Rob Bradley). The changes to 790.053 and 790.10 below are simple and you can present them to your Senator if they are a Republican. I will not ask those who have Democrat Senators to waste their time, with the exception of Senator Abruzzo.
If Florida Carry gets sponsors for their own bill and it's different than this at least the senators will have been introduced to the concept by people other than those who are the heads of gun rights lobbies.
I suggest presenting the topic and the suggested changes to your senator. Please don't wear cammo when you do this. If they are opposed tell them you will research their specific concerns (even if you already know them to be unfounded) and that you will return later with evidence to the contrary. If they support it or not, address the concerns of the Retail Federation. 1. Private properties can already decide if they want to allow any type of behavior (no shoes, no shirt, no service). 2. Most states already allow open carry without a license, and retailers there have no concerns over open carry.
If you do this report back in this thread with your experience and which senator you visited.
790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s.790.06(1) to openly carry a holstered handgun.
(2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:
(a) A self-defense chemical spray.
(b) A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.
(3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
790.10 Improper exhibition of dangerous weapons or firearms.—If any person having or carrying any dirk, sword, sword cane, firearm, electric weapon or device, or other weapon shall, in the presence of one or more persons, exhibit the same in a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense, the person so offending shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s.790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.
I know it's silly and weird and extreme to actually do something for your rights but I've written my own licensed OC bill and will present it to my Republican state senator, in person (Rob Bradley). The changes to 790.053 and 790.10 below are simple and you can present them to your Senator if they are a Republican. I will not ask those who have Democrat Senators to waste their time, with the exception of Senator Abruzzo.
If Florida Carry gets sponsors for their own bill and it's different than this at least the senators will have been introduced to the concept by people other than those who are the heads of gun rights lobbies.
I suggest presenting the topic and the suggested changes to your senator. Please don't wear cammo when you do this. If they are opposed tell them you will research their specific concerns (even if you already know them to be unfounded) and that you will return later with evidence to the contrary. If they support it or not, address the concerns of the Retail Federation. 1. Private properties can already decide if they want to allow any type of behavior (no shoes, no shirt, no service). 2. Most states already allow open carry without a license, and retailers there have no concerns over open carry.
If you do this report back in this thread with your experience and which senator you visited.
790.053 Open carrying of weapons.—
(1) Except as otherwise provided by law and in subsection (2), it is unlawful for any person to openly carry on or about his or her person any firearm or electric weapon or device. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s.790.06(1) to openly carry a holstered handgun.
(2) A person may openly carry, for purposes of lawful self-defense:
(a) A self-defense chemical spray.
(b) A nonlethal stun gun or dart-firing stun gun or other nonlethal electric weapon or device that is designed solely for defensive purposes.
(3) Any person violating this section commits a misdemeanor of the second degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083.
790.10 Improper exhibition of dangerous weapons or firearms.—If any person having or carrying any dirk, sword, sword cane, firearm, electric weapon or device, or other weapon shall, in the presence of one or more persons, exhibit the same in a rude, careless, angry, or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense, the person so offending shall be guilty of a misdemeanor of the first degree, punishable as provided in s. 775.082 or s. 775.083. It is not a violation of this section for a person licensed to carry a concealed firearm as provided in s.790.06(1), and who is lawfully carrying a firearm in a concealed manner, to briefly and openly display the firearm to the ordinary sight of another person, unless the firearm is intentionally displayed in an angry or threatening manner, not in necessary self-defense.
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