I beg to differ, if your statewide OC organizational efforts are nationally effecting public OC perception resulting in real or perceived firearm bans, as well as providing extensive fodder and publicity to anti's to push their cause, because of your OC organizational misguided agenda and leadership of said OC organization(s) can't control their agenda's efforts sufficiently, then i am sorry your precious OC organization(s) deserve every flipping bit of criticism they are receiving here and nationally.
apparently, the group's leadership didn't learn nor react promptly from previous events staged earlier and the resulting fall out and yet sanctioned continued events which turned into publicity nightmares and down an unrecoverable slippery slope.
I do not care one iota if the ban(s) is real or perceived, john Q Public reads all the internet and other media outlets and sees the word "BAN'd firearms in eating establishments" and now when i, by state law am allowed to carry, i must now worry not about the establishment's management but the citizen sitting next to me phreaking out and calling the police or making a scene while all i want to do is eat peacefully.
let me put it into several easier perspectives for you
when smoking bans were instituted ~ city by city, across the country, the public didn't care if the establishment allowed smoking, they pitched a flipping scene when they saw someone smoking in the establishment and i am sure there were many police called to enforce the 'smoking' ordinances enacted.
you talk about the forum ~ look at those members who jump up and down and are affectionately and regularly called the grammar nazi(s) and there isn't even a forum rule about 'grammer' :shocker: usage
you scream lies, lies, lies...maybe, but when the horse is out of the barn running down the road, i do not care who let the animal out...your organization(s) didn't have the wherewithal nor resources to effect damage control to affect the outcome.
now, quit your bellyaching and your continued finger pointing of lies here or there about who let the horse out, so you can now put your outrage where it belongs...on those who failed to appropriately provide leadership, didn't respond and misread initial event opps, didn't respond properly to the initial fall out, and yet continued to plod along until the whole country
perceives these eating establishments have sanctioned firearm owners.
like the VA debacle, someone accepted (finally) responsibility and resigned so someone else could begin remediation efforts...within your precious organization(s) has anybody even stepped up and said perhaps our agenda didn't work. nope - quote: We are winning. Because we are winning,...unquote
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i'm sorry what timeline do you keep ranting about, since you have not put anything of substance out here to respond to except that simple statement, i took the liberty to pursue what i have read here, (
http://forum.opencarry.org/forums/s...t-Your-local-Home-depot&p=2064843#post2064843) on the internet, as well as from the national media.
