Jack House
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That. Was. EPIC! :monkey
That. Was. EPIC! :monkey
I think it'd be a miracle if you threw 3 bullets down range at the same deer and still managed to kill it.Hahaha, what a doofus!
Apparently he hasn't heard of a G18.
I don't hunt (although I love the meat!) so hunters correct me if I am wrong but most hunters I know would consider it a bad kill if it takes more than 1 round?
Hahaha, what a doofus!
Apparently he hasn't heard of a G18.
I don't hunt (although I love the meat!) so hunters correct me if I am wrong but most hunters I know would consider it a bad kill if it takes more than 1 round?
Actually I hunt with a single shot .223 and have no problem harvesting deer with it. I also know that this year a friend's boy took his first deer and used a .223. I also know of many urbanites who come down to the country and seem to believe "spray and pray" is the only way to hunt. Look I'm not saying multiple shots are not sometimes required for an animal on the run, nor am I knocking someone who empties a mag. shooting through heavy brush I have done both, but these "hunters who only fire their guns the day before season( if that, actually saw a guy who paid a guy to laser bore sight his gun and then hit the woods without ever firing it himself) need more practice. I know my gun well, I know how it shoots under every condition and sometimes I have to pass on shots due to the limitations of it. That knowledge comes from practicing and using my firearm, and includes all my firearms, not just the ones I hunt with, but the ones I use for protection as well.
While I have no problem with anyone using a singleshot to hunt with, I do have a disagreement with your choice of caliber. In my opinion, and in many states it is illegal, deer should not be hunted with any of the .22's, i.e., the .222, .222 magnum, .221, .22 fireball, .22 hornet nor the .223/5.56, etc.. I don't think a .243 is sufficient for most full grown whitetail nor for mulies, though it may well suffice for Pacific Blacktail.
Finally someone at least mentions that there are many different size deer in various parts of the country. There are also many places in the country where the only shot you will get will be less than 75 yards on a deer that weighs less than 100 pounds.
There is no firm yes or no on whether the .223 is good for deer or not. It might be fine in your part of the country. The most important thing is to use the right bullet. The cartridge got its bad reputation because a lot of people were using varmint or target bullets that were disintegrating or not expanding at all, and working with limited effectiveness. With a proper big game bullet, the .223 will properly deliver its 1200 ft.-lbs.
Funny how a lot of people who swear you shouldn't use a .223 rifle don't have an issue with using a .44 HANDGUN. You also realize there are still people taking deer with arrows, too, right? You simply work within the limitations of what you are carrying. If we spent as much energy telling poor hunters HOW to use a .223 to hunt as we did telling them it is a bad choice, there'd be a lot fewer problems.
I use a .308 or .30-06 in NV because the ranges are long on a lot of the available shots, and the mule deer aren't tiny. But when I go to Texas, where my friend's land presents us a fixed 70-yard shot on a 100# whitetail, the .223 is very popular because it is very effective under those limitations.
While I have no problem with anyone using a singleshot to hunt with, I do have a disagreement with your choice of caliber. In my opinion, and in many states it is illegal, deer should not be hunted with any of the .22's, i.e., the .222, .222 magnum, .221, .22 fireball, .22 hornet nor the .223/5.56, etc.. I don't think a .243 is sufficient for most full grown whitetail nor for mulies, though it may well suffice for Pacific Blacktail.
Most deer or any game for that matter are killed with one shot,but sometimes it may take a second shot to dispatch the animal, very rarely 3. Its the ethical thing to do. Nothing upsets me more than to wound and lose an animal, but it happens. I wish bloomberg would just disappear, what a tyrant!!
I think it'd be a miracle if you threw 3 bullets down range at the same deer and still managed to kill it.
Seriously?
What makes you a ballistics expert?
My preferred round is a 22-250, the same .224 diameter projectile you question as capable. Kinda funny how all but one deer dropped in its tracks with that round, the only one that didn't was a buck on the run that leaped and face-planted into a slide for a few yards.
I have had to track down deer taken with my 30-06, but not with my little .224 52 grain projectiles.