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Campus carry bill filed in Ky. House

gutshot II

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Rep. Tim Moore has introduced HB 194 to remove the authority for public colleges and universities to restrict firearms on their campuses. Rep. Moore has filed bills in the last few years that remove almost all restrictions on locations where firearms are now restricted. Looks like he has decided to try to take smaller bites from this apple.

HB 194 can be seen here:


https://apps.legislature.ky.gov/recorddocuments/bill/19RS/HB194/bill.pdf
 

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Well, that is conceal carry. What law disallows open carry on college campuses?
Technically none. The KY constitution plainly only gives the state legislature to prevent concealed carry.

Actually the whole ccdw permit scheme violates the KY constitution

It only gave the legislature power to prevent cc, or allow it. Not to regulate cc or create a bunch of regulations using cc as an excuse.
 

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Technically none. The KY constitution plainly only gives the state legislature to prevent concealed carry.

Actually the whole ccdw permit scheme violates the KY constitution

It only gave the legislature power to prevent cc, or allow it. Not to regulate cc or create a bunch of regulations using cc as an excuse.
What about an open carry walk across University of Louisville campus? Is it not public property?
 

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What about an open carry walk across University of Louisville campus? Is it not public property?
While it wouldn't be illegal, in Louisville, at the UOL, probably the most liberal place in the state it's almost a guarantee one would be Swatted on campus. And probably shot by a nervous Nellie swat team as a, mass shooter.

I have OCed in the Derby quite a bit but had no occasion to go to UOL campus.
 

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237.115 Construction of KRS 237.110 -- Prohibition by local government units of carrying concealed deadly weapons in governmental buildings -- Restriction on criminal penalties.
(1) Except as provided in KRS 527.020, nothing contained in KRS 237.110 shall be construed to limit, restrict, or prohibit in any manner the right of a college, university, or any postsecondary education facility, including technical schools and community colleges, to control the possession of deadly weapons on any property owned or controlled by them or the right of a unit of state, city, county, urban-county, or charter county government to prohibit the carrying of concealed deadly weapons by licensees in that portion of a building actually owned, leased, or occupied by that unit of government.
Open carry would not be allowed on college campuses.
 

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Open carry would not be allowed on college campuses.
What you have quoted is existing law. The new, proposed language is in bold font and underlined. If you read that new, proposed language you will see that open carry is not excluded, although the carrier will have to be licensed.
 

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Open carry would not be allowed on college campuses.
You will note that the statute your quoting is about concealed deadly weapons. Not a peep about OC.

Because there cannot constitutionally be in KY. KY makes a stab at preventing carry in bars OC but it wouldn't survive a serious challenge.

The only thing UOL could do is trespass the carrier. Legally.

Anyway it's a bad law. It would be the first time in KY that a permit was necessary to carry a firearm openly anywhere save for the fed thing on schools.

End run around the KY constitution in a first step to begin making permits nessacary to OC.

That cannot be allowed.
Where the effort should be is supporting permitless carry or "constitutional carry".
 
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