Mr Birdman
Regular Member
Are you allowed to carry in a city/bureau/township building if their police department is attached to the building?
The reason I ask is that I saw a sign in Forest Hills park saying there are no guns allowed in the park and I wanted to go to their council meeting and complain and I did not want to get in trouble for doing so because their building has the police station attached to it .Why would one not be allowed to carry in a city/bureau/township building if a police department is attached to the building?
You know, you can always ask what the law is behind their signage before attempting to enter while armed...The reason I ask is that I saw a sign in Forest Hills park saying there are no guns allowed in the park and I wanted to go to their council meeting and complain and I did not want to get in trouble for doing so because their building has the police station attached to it .
It is a lot like saying no illegal guns.If this is the Borough of Forest Hills in Allegheny County (which was the only one I could find), if one goes online and checks out their municipal ordinances, one finds Section 16-104 in their Borough Code listing prohibited acts. One such act prohibited is: "To unlawfully possess, use, carry or discharge any firearms."
The operative word in their ordinance, making it not in conflict with state law, is the word "unlawfully". The ordinance doesn't say you can't carry in the park, it just says you can't do it unlawfully.
The sign may be misleading by omitting that "unlawfully" word.
Under the color of law, it's prohibiting lawful carry. The sign either needs a word added or the phrase deleted.§ 6120. *Limitation on the regulation of firearms and ammunition.
(a) *General rule.--No county, municipality or township may in any manner regulate the lawful ownership, possession, transfer or transportation of firearms, ammunition or ammunition components when carried or transported for purposes not prohibited by the laws of this Commonwealth.
I trust you are being humorous, however if not, in modern democracies the people's will is in theory sovereign. Also we have the 9th amendment and 14th amendment of the constitution to support our 2nd amendment right..The states are sovereign.
Your disrespect for me and my opinions are dully noted, however your disrespect for the United States Constitution, and the law of the land, while being a sheep, is disrespectful to no one, but yourself..Your trust is misplaced and mistaken. I am contradicting disrespectfully.
Talked to the borough manager and he said he will look into it. He also told me that as a non resident of the borough I could come to the meeting but I could not speak about any issues since I did not live there. :banghead:here is a pic of the sign in the park.
As a former borough council member and council president, I fully understand where you're coming from, and where the borough manager is coming from. Think of it this way, you want to file a lawsuit but don't have standing. The borough council answers to the borough residents; outsiders not so much.He also told me that as a non resident of the borough I could come to the meeting but I could not speak about any issues since I did not live there. :banghead: