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Gender Identity??

CJ4wd

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Got this in an email from a friend and thought it was a hilarious idea.

When one tries to “reason” with a lefty democrat, remember you are dealing with a person who believes that a man can be a woman and a woman can be a man and that such a delusion should be encouraged, not discouraged. Discouragement of the delusion is considered immoral and bigoted. Thus, our society has unnecessary dilemmas concerning bathrooms, athletic competition at all levels, and “pronoun” controversies subjecting ourselves to all manner of laws, rules, regulation and more needless government control.

Here is a suggestion to break the left’s ridiculous gender ideology and denial of biological reality.

President Trump should make a declaration that he is identifying as a woman. The left will have to admit the absurdity of their gender ideology or accept and celebrate “Donna Trump” as the first woman President, thus beating Hillary, Liz Warren, Amy Klobuchar, Kamala Harris and Kirsten Gillibrand to the glorious goal of one of their “female firsts”.

Furthermore, if he remains married to Melania he will also be the first gay president and the first lesbian president. He will also be the first lesbian president married to an immigrant! What a most glorious event for the democrats to celebrate.

God, I love it when a plan comes together!!!!!!
 

Beretta92fsQueer

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Is gender identity a delusion. No more a delusion for the transsexual than it is for you or any other person who has posted here.

Does my identity as a female conflict with the objective biological reality that I was born male bodied. Absolutely. Yours just happens not to.

The gender identity issue isn’t about anything but the conflict between the mind and body. Gender dysphoria is the psychiatric condition.

Transsexuals have a psychiatric condition. The medical and psychiatric community is engaging in unethical, and immoral practices when they mutilate the genitals, faces, and natural hormonal balance of individuals like myself.

Am I saying transsexuals shouldn’t be allowed to transition hormonally, surgically, and socially? They should be, as long as they understand there is nothing wrong with their natural mind, and natural body. This battle with the natural state of the body is why suicide is out of control with transsexuals, even after transition. Transition simply does not work.

Self-acceptance is thrown out the window for a hyper-focused ‘treatment’ of the body that is costly, and requires countless hours of surgeries to modify the body. Not to mention the damaging effects of hormone replacement after you castrate a male body.

Transsexual children should NEVER be allowed to hormonally and surgically transition. Any doctor or therapist who does it should be thrown in prison. Close to concluding transitioning adult transsexuals like myself should be illegal, or only a very last resort following extensive treatment centered around acceptance of the physical body.

What’s crazy is Leftists are against conversion therapy because it supposedly puts the individual against their true self. So does transition. It puts the individual against the objective reality of their body. This physical vessel we all occupy while here on Earth is somehow wrong according to the medical community when dealing with transsexuals. They are wrong.

Transsexual females (biological males) should NEVER be permitted to compete in athletic sports against biological females. It’s unfair.

I should add there’s obviously something off about a person like myself. Again, I have a psychiatric condition. But that isn’t the totality of my life. My wife and I have been married for 20 years this year. Together 22 years. We have raised 4 wonderful productive members of society.

I asked a fellow transsexual what the hell Socialism, “Resist,” pro-tax, etc have to do with our psychiatric condition. Seems Leftists assume all transsexuals give a damn about a bakery denying gay people a wedding cake. I don’t, it’s their God given right to say no, and be left alone.
 
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solus

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Might i proffer a bit of clarification for our member/readers.

Psychiatric is related to a medical problem affecting an individual’s mental well being per se., e.g. cognition loss due to head trauma, stroke, accident, etc. Further, psychiatrist(s) are medical practicers, MD + extra rotations with mentally ill citizens, who accomplish physical, behavioral, and cognitive histories, order blood tests or other medical exams, evaluate (by observation and interview) your mood, your reality testing, and mental status etc. Ultimately, after an extensive (and usually expensive) interview, the doctor will arrive at a psychiatric diagnosis (if appropriate) and may also recommend medicines to help with the problem–which they can prescribe.

Psychologists are non-medical mental health practitioners, who cannot prescribe medications, but who have graduate and/or terminal degrees in the science of psychology and upon completion of their education, must take/pass a national exam as well as endure [read pay for] 2k-3k supervisory hours oversight before they are licensed in their state to assist citizens with their mental health issues!

They are not normally interchangeable terms.

The problem as you outlined is basically correct in that an individual has a “feeling” [note not a medical issue] of disconnect between their physical gender and their perceived gender which causes discomfort, sometimes significant discomfort, which affects the individual’s ability to function!

Much to everyone’s chagrin, this is not a new phenomenon but has been going on for decades, George in 1953 trans’d to Christine Jorgensen In a widely publicized newspeek blitz.

Caitlin Jenner didn’t, the fraudster didn’t have a ‘feeling’ about gender until offered $$$$ [rumored 5-10M and TV show/books/etc] to have breasts implanted, but is rumored to have kept male genitalia [sorry not peeking to see if it was removed]

Undistinguished Trinity Colorado is known as the sex-change capitol of the world!

Thanks for the enlighten post and sorry you still believe you ‘... I have a psychiatric condition!’ As from your post it sounds like your reality and such are normal!
 

Beretta92fsQueer

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Might i proffer a bit of clarification for our member/readers.

Psychiatric is related to a medical problem affecting an individual’s mental well being per se., e.g. cognition loss due to head trauma, stroke, accident, etc. Further, psychiatrist(s) are medical practicers, MD + extra rotations with mentally ill citizens, who accomplish physical, behavioral, and cognitive histories, order blood tests or other medical exams, evaluate (by observation and interview) your mood, your reality testing, and mental status etc. Ultimately, after an extensive (and usually expensive) interview, the doctor will arrive at a psychiatric diagnosis (if appropriate) and may also recommend medicines to help with the problem–which they can prescribe.

Psychologists are non-medical mental health practitioners, who cannot prescribe medications, but who have graduate and/or terminal degrees in the science of psychology and upon completion of their education, must take/pass a national exam as well as endure [read pay for] 2k-3k supervisory hours oversight before they are licensed in their state to assist citizens with their mental health issues!

They are not normally interchangeable terms.

The problem as you outlined is basically correct in that an individual has a “feeling” [note not a medical issue] of disconnect between their physical gender and their perceived gender which causes discomfort, sometimes significant discomfort, which affects the individual’s ability to function!

Much to everyone’s chagrin, this is not a new phenomenon but has been going on for decades, George in 1953 trans’d to Christine Jorgensen In a widely publicized newspeek blitz.

Caitlin Jenner didn’t, the fraudster didn’t have a ‘feeling’ about gender until offered $$$$ [rumored 5-10M and TV show/books/etc] to have breasts implanted, but is rumored to have kept male genitalia [sorry not peeking to see if it was removed]

Undistinguished Trinity Colorado is known as the sex-change capitol of the world!

Thanks for the enlighten post and sorry you still believe you ‘... I have a psychiatric condition!’ As from your post it sounds like your reality and such are normal!
Should have chose my words better. I don't consider myself to have a psychiatric condition. The medical community does.

What is going to happen in the coming decade are unfortunately over a million people like me asking the medical community why they sterilized us, and hacked our bodies up for a treatment that simply doesn't solve whatever the perceived issue is. Transition is modern day electro-shock, and lobotomy as far as I'm concerned.

The medical community is castrating, sterilizing, and medicating transexuals, and calling it "treatments." I hope the general population wakes up to this fact, and at least demands transexual children aren't subjected to irreversible so-called 'treatments'.

One would think that considering I'm living the good life with a beautiful wife, and great kids that this issue wouldn't persist. All I can say is it's been there for as long as I can remember. At 41 the "why" at this point is irrelevant. Life simply is what it is. And it's a damn good life that I'm blessed to have.

Unfortunately, if young folks who are experiencing what I experience are sterilized before they are even adults they will never have the opportunity to do what comes naturally to 99.9% of all humans, which is procreate, make a family, and live that sort of fulfilling life. It would be a damn tragedy if we as a society let that happen.
 

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Procreation isn’t a priority for some.

And glad you are comfortable with your choices and lifestyle...some undergo assignment and regretted the procedure as it was done for selfish reasons.
 

FreedomVA

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Should have chose my words better. I don't consider myself to have a psychiatric condition. The medical community does.

What is going to happen in the coming decade are unfortunately over a million people like me asking the medical community why they sterilized us, and hacked our bodies up for a treatment that simply doesn't solve whatever the perceived issue is. Transition is modern day electro-shock, and lobotomy as far as I'm concerned.

The medical community is castrating, sterilizing, and medicating transexuals, and calling it "treatments." I hope the general population wakes up to this fact, and at least demands transexual children aren't subjected to irreversible so-called 'treatments'.

One would think that considering I'm living the good life with a beautiful wife, and great kids that this issue wouldn't persist. All I can say is it's been there for as long as I can remember. At 41 the "why" at this point is irrelevant. Life simply is what it is. And it's a damn good life that I'm blessed to have.

Unfortunately, if young folks who are experiencing what I experience are sterilized before they are even adults they will never have the opportunity to do what comes naturally to 99.9% of all humans, which is procreate, make a family, and live that sort of fulfilling life. It would be a damn tragedy if we as a society let that happen.

I say, Live and let Live.....everyone have a choice how they want to live life and of course your choice of sexual orientations, at least in the USA, without discriminations.

I, personally do not understand the attractions to the same sex and always had the attracted to the opposite sex (females), but that is each ADULT choice. I've been on the fence before such as, 9mm or 45APC handgun? but not pertaining to sexual desire. Maybe you could educated us? To me a stick and a hole is natural in nature and physics (but i am only a dishwasser)

What i don't agree with nowadays, is the #MeTooRainbow# movements and sometime imposing or influencing the youth to thinking they can also have the same choice or "It's a cool meme thing". The youngins are not mature enough to make these kind of decisions and they lack emotional controls. They are easily influenced at these age.

I think what you do in your bedroom is your business, keep it off the street.

BTW, if you are truly are Transsexual, but living a Heterosexual life? isn't that a contradiction (no disrespect)?
 

solus

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I say, Live and let Live.....everyone have a choice how they want to live life and of course your choice of sexual orientations, at least in the USA, without discriminations.

I, personally do not understand the attractions to the same sex and always had the attracted to the opposite sex (females), but that is each ADULT choice. I've been on the fence before such as, 9mm or 45APC handgun? but not pertaining to sexual desire. Maybe you could educated us? To me a stick and a hole is natural in nature and physics (but i am only a dishwasser)

What i don't agree with nowadays, is the #MeTooRainbow# movements and sometime imposing or influencing the youth to thinking they can also have the same choice or "It's a cool meme thing". The youngins are not mature enough to make these kind of decisions and they lack emotional controls. They are easily influenced at these age.

I think what you do in your bedroom is your business, keep it off the street.

BTW, if you are truly are Transsexual, but living a Heterosexual life? isn't that a contradiction (no disrespect)?
Alas freedomVA the mental anguish previously discussed is not a ‘sexual’ orientation concept but rather a mental health gender dysphoria issue where an individual ‘feel’ their gender is wrong.

Further, not everyone has the choice(s) you stated.

Your post above, summed up in your last sentence, where you believe correlating a recognized mental health disorder which causes individuals to suffer tremendously in their daily functioning of life to normal sexual practices & desires for gratification purposes shows a complete lack of your understanding of the issue(s) and does a tremendous injustice to eliminating the prejudice shown to those who suffer.

Put it perspective freedomVa...please contemplate the amount of suffering/anguish/pain which is affecting your lifestyle/relationship/employment/etc where you would volunteer to undergo reassignment surgeries of breast augmentation/genitalia removal & restructuring as well as endure the hormonal therapy - for the remainder of your natural life...and you should begin to understand its not for personal sexual gratification purposes.
 

OC for ME

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Liberals continue to postulate that these folks are being rounded up by the medical community and subjected to "treatment' against their wishes.

Another data point that liberals are knowing so much that is not so.
 

FreedomVA

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Alas freedomVA the mental anguish previously discussed is not a ‘sexual’ orientation concept but rather a mental health gender dysphoria issue where an individual ‘feel’ their gender is wrong.

Further, not everyone has the choice(s) you stated.

Sure they do

Your post above, summed up in your last sentence, where you believe correlating a recognized mental health disorder which causes individuals to suffer tremendously in their daily functioning of life to normal sexual practices & desires for gratification purposes shows a complete lack of your understanding of the issue(s) and does a tremendous injustice to eliminating the prejudice shown to those who suffer.

I don't see it as a MH issue, i see it as a personal choice. ... every human can have their emotional need meet from either M or F, but when it comes to where you poke your stick or how a taco is eaten is a personal choice.

Put it perspective freedomVa...please contemplate the amount of suffering/anguish/pain which is affecting your lifestyle/relationship/employment/etc where you would volunteer to undergo reassignment surgeries of breast augmentation/genitalia removal & restructuring as well as endure the hormonal therapy - for the remainder of your natural life...and you should begin to understand its not for personal sexual gratification purposes.


It's a personal choice. I don't see how not getting my stick inverted is suffering? Beretta92fsQueer, is a good expample of that, the member is Trans, but live a Happy and Healthy Hetero life, so where is the suffering?
 

Beretta92fsQueer

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I say, Live and let Live.....everyone have a choice how they want to live life and of course your choice of sexual orientations, at least in the USA, without discriminations.

I, personally do not understand the attractions to the same sex and always had the attracted to the opposite sex (females), but that is each ADULT choice. I've been on the fence before such as, 9mm or 45APC handgun? but not pertaining to sexual desire. Maybe you could educated us? To me a stick and a hole is natural in nature and physics (but i am only a dishwasser)

What i don't agree with nowadays, is the #MeTooRainbow# movements and sometime imposing or influencing the youth to thinking they can also have the same choice or "It's a cool meme thing". The youngins are not mature enough to make these kind of decisions and they lack emotional controls. They are easily influenced at these age.

I think what you do in your bedroom is your business, keep it off the street.

BTW, if you are truly are Transsexual, but living a Heterosexual life? isn't that a contradiction (no disrespect)?
I was born biologically male. I identify as female. Not sure why, it’s just what it is. I’m attracted to females. I don’t identify with, nor relate to gays. Wife, and I have 4 kids that are biologically ours; made kids with my wife prior to being castrated, which was described by doctors as a treatment, that would aid in resolving dysphoria, which it didn’t. Not complaining, this is my life, a blessed life, and I own it.

Kids that are dealing with the same dilemma as myself should be barred from surgical and hormonal transition. Some folks like OC want to keep their head in the sand, and act as if transsexual kids aren’t being castrated, and sterilized, having breasts removed, and injected with cross gender hormones. Think again. It is happening, in much larger numbers than most people want to believe. Parents are’t doing their transsexual kids any favors feeding into the narrative that there is something wrong with the natural state of one’s body.
 
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