Thoughts on suggesting a needed memo to law enforcement agencies on SB656

[OC for ME]

So....are you saying or implying these do not apply to OCing? :question:

If courts read the laws using their plain language meaning, as they are wont to say, then no, 571.107.1(15) does not apply to OC. Me, a no CC sign is they same as "I don't need your steenking money!"

 

[Maverick9]

OC for Me:
In all honesty the no firearms signs are just a useless gesture that seem to make the ignorant feel secure. As if it's a physical deterrent to crime.

Yeah, I think we should all OC and wear T-Shirts with a gun-buster sign and a 'no carry on premises logo'.

I mean, it's cheaper than a plate vest, right?

 

[Redbaron007]

If courts read the laws using their plain language meaning, as they are wont to say, then no, 571.107.1(15) does not apply to OC. Me, a no CC sign is they same as "I don't need your steenking money!"

Concur 100%

 

[Maverick9]

For an on-topic bit of input, it's a waste of time. Words on a page do not translate into the common practice, iow.

 

[OC for ME]

Maybe not, fore warned is fore armed. It would be exceedingly difficult to claim a "training issue" if it could be documented that the issue and one possible solution were provided by a concerned citizen. Snail-mail, signature required, return receipt required, to the Top Cop at the cop shop. They may throw the cop shop mail lady under the bus to avoid culpability or negligence though.

Give it a try. Cops these days are not wanting to be perceived as a Seattle PD/NYPD et al (thug cop shop), or a Ferguson PD (not deserving of thug cop shop title at this time), if they can avoid it.

 

[Drytchnath]

Even if you made a very informative and correct memo, the problem is in St. Louis County you have so many municipalities. Even if you got a couple to pay attention you walk 50 yards and a different cities PD starts harassing you. It would still help if a couple of them listened but it would be a large undertaking to send it out to all of them and follow up until they actually disseminate it to the lowest level.

 

[davidmcbeth]

I think its good that the OP wants to more fully understand the law but I assure you, LEOs don't want to hear it.

 

[LMTD]

How about this instead:

Officers, open carry of firearms is legal through out the entire state for all citizens, no permit required.

For questions: See article 23 of the Missouri constitution which after recent passage of amendment 5 by 61% of citizens, completely invalidated all municipal laws drafted under 21.750.3 regarding the open carry of firearms.

Action: Leave citizens conducting themselves in a legal manner alone.

 

[deepdiver]

How about this instead:

Officers, open carry of firearms is legal through out the entire state for all citizens, no permit required.

For questions: See article 23 of the Missouri constitution which after recent passage of amendment 5 by 61% of citizens, completely invalidated all municipal laws drafted under 21.750.3 regarding the open carry of firearms.

Action: Leave citizens conducting themselves in a legal manner alone.

I certainly hope that is the eventual legal interpretation as this sorts out.