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Wishy Washy Gun Owners

decklin

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Sep 2, 2011
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Pacific, WA
This is a video I saw today. The guy speaking says he is in favor of OC then goes on to compel people to just give up their rights. Apparently he lives here in Washington and since he mentioned Sportsman's Warehouse I'm thinking he probably lives in the Puyallup area. Anybody know him?
I've come across a few people just like him and I have found it very difficult to talk to them. In general they just seem to believe they are the only right ones.

So how do you reach people like this? I was very similar to this when I first started CC about 8 years ago but have changed my viewpoints on many things in the last few years.
I know this topic is a little random and I'm probably not doing a very good job of voicing why I'm posting this but for whatever reason this guy just really bothered me.

[video=youtube;9abjsU7ibvE]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9abjsU7ibvE&feature=relmfu[/video]
 

1911er

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Port Orchard Wa. /Granite Oklahoma
First of all do you put much acceptability on a full grown man that wears A superman ballcap and drinks coffee (or milk) out of A marvin the martian or wonderwoman cup. Just sayin!!!
 

decklin

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First of all do you put much acceptability on a full grown man that wears A superman ballcap and drinks coffee (or milk) out of A marvin the martian or wonderwoman cup. Just sayin!!!

I actually thought the Marvin Cup was cool.
 

davidmcbeth

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earth's crust
First of all do you put much acceptability on a full grown man that wears A superman ballcap and drinks coffee (or milk) out of A marvin the martian or wonderwoman cup. Just sayin!!!

Or stores gun in those crappy safes he has ... he clearly knows little ...
 

Freedom1Man

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Jan 14, 2012
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Greater Eastside Washington
He admits that there is no requirement to identify yourself and then says that if you don't identify yourself it's legal for the cops to arrest you for that....


That guy is an idiot.
 

EMNofSeattle

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Aug 7, 2012
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S. Kitsap, Washington state
He's in Vancouver

I've watched most of his videos, He references living in Vancouver and has several set in Portland, OR

He also posted on The High Road years ago as "The Playboy Penguin"

I mean like any internet gun guy it's important to take everything said with a grain of salt, I've seen that video and several others like it. He gets several things wrong, or maybe he just doesn't know WA law that well, in one video he claimed he was a police officer in Alabama years ago. I don't know if they have "stop and ID" in AL or not, but as everyone here knows we don't have that in WA, cops can only compel your ID if you're actually being cited/charged with a crime.

He also butchers the concept of qualified immunity, there is no "good faith exemption" to the law, there's a shield against personal liability if actions did not violate clearly established law. In another video I think he said something about being allowed to enter a school with his gun if he was picking up a child, also incorrect. I like his gun reviews and sense of humor, but his grasp of Washington law frankly sucks.
 

BigDave

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Nov 22, 2006
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Yakima, Washington, USA
Be cognizant that people with similar views and opinions are your peers and thus could be on a jury hearing your case, remember Josh's case in Vancouver?
Appearance and Representation has value and if ignored it can bite you in the hind quarters.
 

sirpuma

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Nov 1, 2007
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Location
Deer Park, Washington, USA
After watching the video in question (don't recall seeing this guys channel before) I find myself agreeing with much of what he says. I don't know all the exemptions to all the laws for LEO (and most laws have an exemption in them) so I'll not side with or against him on that aspect. However I do find that many who OC will either act or talk big on forums like an uncooperative, belligerent arse. One can stand up for our rights while still being polite and respectful with LEO. After all, respect is a two way street.
 
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